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Old 06-01-2014, 01:14 PM   #1
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Hey all,

Brand new to the forum and, hopefully, soon to be new to the Audi family. My 2013 mazda MX5 was totaled when a girl tried to make a turn in front of me.

My question is should I buy this Audi:
http://www.flowaudiwinstonsalem.com/...86c41dc231.htm

I really wanted quattro and the TT family has long been my dream car. Now that i'm a 23 year old nurse I can afford it.

So... when I say "should I buy it" What I mean is how is the car? Since i'm not a part of the Audi family yet, nor have I ever read forums on the TT I don't know what the positives and negatives of the car really are. I only just test drove one the end of last week. How is the reliability? The guy said an oil change is about 100$ and the 100k mile service is about a grand. I plan to purchase an aftermarket warranty fyi.

Thank you for the help, hoping to sign papers for it tomorrow afternoon ish.
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:07 PM   #2
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Default Decent deal but I'd look around first

Unlike the first generation of TTs (1999-2006) that had a few key issues you had to watch for when buying, this second generation has been very reliable. I'm driving my third TT since 2001. When I bought mine, I did a search over the entire coast to get the best deal and bought all of mine in CA. Check cars.com, autotrader.com, and CarMax and do a search without any distance restrictions.

While the price on the car you list is in line with what I'd expect, this one is a much better deal for about $5K more.

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...3447/overview/

It has less than half the miles and is 2 years newer. It is certified pre-owned with a CPO warranty. The 2011 model came with more standard features that were options in 2009. It is AWD. Also, starting in 2011, the engine received a major upgrade that was grossly underspeced by Audi because the real numbers were too close to the TTS. APR did a dyno test and found the new engine put out over 220 HP and over 290 ft-lb of torque! The difference is VERY noticeable compared to the 2009.

If I were in your shoes, I'd fly down to FL on a Friday for a few hundred bucks and drive it home for a great weekend road trip. The dealer will pick you up at the airport and some even paid for my room.
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Old 06-02-2014, 01:59 AM   #3
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I admit i'm not sure what all the CPO warranty covers but basically it comes down to:

One car is cheaper, fwd, Sline, and electromagnetic
The other is newer, less half miles, and awd.

It's a tough call. The AWD is really important to me but i'm also leary of buying from so far away. The local dealer is going to try and build a relationship. Obviously I'd have to purchase an aftermarket warranty for the 2k9 one which puts the total difference at about 3,500 adding in the travel costs.
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Also, I'm a little concerned why without considering options, the 2011 TT is listing at 27.9 when KBB says as a CPO I should ---walk out the door--- for 32.5.
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Also, I'm a little concerned why without considering options, the 2011 TT is listing at 27.9 when KBB says as a CPO I should ---walk out the door--- for 32.5.
Most of the S-line items are cosmetic. The only performance-related items are 19" wheels and a slightly lower suspension. Some folks don't like 19" wheels due to the stiffer ride. Some folks don't like the non-magnetic suspension because of the slightly stiffer ride. I've driven both suspensions and in the normal mode my *** can't tell the difference but some folks swear by the mag ride. I have a non-mag model.

The two biggest items are the much better engine, AWD, and the warranties. I read the CarFax more carefully and the car still has about a year left on the original factory warranty which covers almost everything for free. Regarding the CPO, it adds another 2 years and up to 100K after the factory warranty expires. Check with your local service manager for details but almost everything is covered except wear items like brakes and each repair will cost you no more than $70.

Buying a local car will not "establish a relationship". The dealer's service manager does not care where you bought the car. He just wants you to get service there since service is the real money maker of any dealership.

Visit the service manager with the VIN of the car you are interested in. He will tell you the service history, remainder of any warranty, etc.

The most likely reason the FL car is less than KBB is because it is an off lease car. My present car is off lease and I bought it from an Audi dealer in CA for about $6K under KBB. Although I am an avid TT fan, the fact is that the Mk 2 TT was not a good selling car. Only about 10K have been sold in the US over the past 5 years COMBINED. IMO that is part of the appeal because the Z4 and SLK are everywhere. I think the FL car is more realistically priced and would have no qualms whatsoever buying a used TT from any Audi dealer. Don't forget the asking price is negotiable. I got $2K off the dealer's asking price.
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They're letting me take the FWD car overnight to test drive and see if I can stand the FWD or not. If I can, it'll be the one. The issue i'm running into is it's the same monthly payment for the car. The bank will do 72 months for the FL and 60 for the NC. So it's a 50 a month difference.

I think it's to my benefit that I have never sat in nor driven the awd version so as long as I can stand the FWD I have nothing to compare it to... aside from the MX5.
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I second Vegas on that "relationship" aspect. Although they love it when you buy through them, they sell once, service forever. If your service experience is good, that is a much better thing for them all around. That may get them a sale and further service down the road.

As for the car being on the uncommon side, I have seen more Teslas than TTs (maybe being close to Boston is part of that). But Beemers and Mercs are a dime a dozen.

I love the Quattro since I am up here in the Northeast where we are finally getting into spring after an interminable snowy winter. But that is just me.

I had 45K on my previous MKII TT and 17K on my present TTS (the only reason I gave up the previous car was to upgrade to the TTS). No reliability issues on either one. Just my every 10K services and tires. The TTs in general have been pretty good. Even my first 2001 MKI only had the one recall for coilpacks in 2005 and a new steering rack at 150K. That isn't bad for such a sweet car.

Do the research on the cars, but I would not be afraid of a CPO.
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After you test drive the 2009 and you like it, tell them that you are seriously considering the FL car since it is only a few $ more for a lot more car. Tell them to make you an offer on the 2009 that you can not refuse and/or get them to give you the warranty for free.
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Unfortunately the salesman was a complete pompous ***. He said they operate on the "15 foot rule." (his manager apparently told him) You take 15 steps out the front door and look at the sign....Audi. So they operate on "market value" and don't haggle prices. As you can imagine...pissed me off.

I test drove the 2k9 FWD and I have to admit... awful. Just plain awful. Good tires, perfect car (aside from FWD) but at half gas pedal at a stoplight it can spin the tires. 99% of the time I don't speed but 5 over. I'm not reckless since my 100mph ticket in an SRT6. But dammit I want off the line traction... and corner traction.

In case any of you find any flaws that I didn't these are the only contenders for me to fly to and drive home;

http://www.thecollection.com/pre/ the silver TT CPO previously talked about

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...stingId=0&mmt=[AUDI[TT[]][]]&vehicleStyleCodes=AWD4WD&modelCode1=TT&sortBy=distanceASC&showcaseOwnerId=0&makeCode1=AUDI&startYear=2009&maxMileage=60000&searchRadius=0&minPrice=17000&listingId=368543638&Log=0

(not sure if seats are manual or electric)

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...stingId=0&mmt=[AUDI[TT[]][]]&vehicleStyleCodes=AWD4WD&modelCode1=TT&sortBy=distanceASC&showcaseOwnerId=0&makeCode1=AUDI&startYear=2009&maxMileage=60000&searchRadius=0&minPrice=17000&listingId=367246126&Log=0

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...stingId=0&mmt=[AUDI[TT[]][]]&vehicleStyleCodes=AWD4WD&modelCode1=TT&sortBy=distanceASC&showcaseOwnerId=0&makeCode1=AUDI&startYear=2009&maxMileage=60000&searchRadius=0&minPrice=17000&listingId=363934695&Log=0

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...stingId=0&mmt=[AUDI[TT[]][]]&vehicleStyleCodes=AWD4WD&modelCode1=TT&sortBy=distanceASC&showcaseOwnerId=0&makeCode1=AUDI&startYear=2009&maxMileage=60000&searchRadius=0&minPrice=17000&listingId=367639919&Log=0
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Old 06-02-2014, 08:42 PM   #10
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Why can't I edit my posts...

http://www.audisilverspring.com/used...4b658d00c5.htm

http://www.abwautos.com/2010-Audi-TT...-06770/4969210

http://www.wrightselect.com/used-inv...KF38J991023974

https://www.rainbowluxuryimports.com...iumPlus-S-Line
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