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Old 10-07-2015, 11:49 AM
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2016 Audi TT Monsoon/Black
19"/Tech Package/B&O/Sport Seats

Kinda bought on a whim. Wife had a 2011 MK2 that we sold at 45k miles since the warranty was expiring about 6 months ago and bought a Grand Cherokee. Wife missed the TT too much so passively started looking in the area once they starting coming in and dealers were just too high, with one trying to add a 5k premium +MSRP. Finally found a dealer who was willing to go below invoice to move a car for the month and they had one of our color choices so jumped on it. Had the car for about 30 days so thought I would share my thoughts as an ex MK2 owner. I will say that overall we are VERY happy with the car, and the wife is thrilled to be back in a TT.

Pros:
- Excellent handling, very flat in the corners though definitely still some slight understear as you can still feel the forward weight bias of the car, still REMARKABLE improvement over the MK2. Continuing to play with the tire pressures as well to see if I can dial out some understeer. I am not going to say its porsche cayman handling levels - but for 90% of the drivers out there its darn close. You can definitely feel the rear push when the car is dynamic, 'almost' mimics a rear LSD.
- Love the utility and aesthetics of the virtual cockpit, well designed/thought out and the added video processing power/speed makes my C7 A6 MMI look like a dinosaur/Apple IIgs.
- Impressively quiet and smooth for a daily driver, even with the 19" wheels. Note: these cars come with either Hankook S1 EVO 2 or Bridgestone S001 in 19" trim. I drove both at the dealer and found the Hankooks marginally quieter.
- Overall aesthetics. I think Audi did a great job
- Seats. Sport seats with diamond stitching, we all know how they look well they feel as good as they look.


Cons:
- LED headlamps, while producing a nice bright output, don't project far enough ahead on the road. A few country roads near me where I never previously had issues seeing down the road I now find myself pulling back the speed or using the brights - whereas I never had to before. Read somewhere that they project further the faster you go but have yet to see that, must be on the non US matrix headlamp version.
- lack of memory seats! Why audi, why would you not just include memory seats??????????
- Power. Knew what I was getting into based on the similar specs to the outgoing, but I think they could have upped the HP/TQ just a tad to remain a bit competitive in the class. I am sure this will come in 1-2 model years. Wish the exhaust was a bit more noticeable as well in dynamic, you can hear the soundaktor come alive in dynamic mode, but its still a bit too quiet.
- Price. I do think this car is a few k more than it should be, but nowadays pretty much everything is as well. They have definitely moved it upmarket, just don't think they have done so as much as they have bumped the price up.
- Paint Quality. 2 fish eyes and one spot where it looks like the clear was disturbed prior to full dry. Plus, the body panels and the bumpers don't exactly match color wise between he metal and plastic panels. I know this can be an issue between the two paint mediums, but this one is def a bit more noticeable than I have seen on other cars.

Paint color mis-match
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Thanks for your thoughts! I had a similar feeling with the headlights when I was driving mine in Europe. I also can't believe they have not included memory seats (on any model anywhere), even though they are fully electric, nor front crash protection (even as an option).

This is 2015. Audi has both these techs already in house. Really astonishing they don't even offer these things as options (safety should be standard in my opinion, but hey, I would've gladly paid extra for it).
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Thanks for your thoughts! I had a similar feeling with the headlights when I was driving mine in Europe. I also can't believe they have not included memory seats (on any model anywhere), even though they are fully electric, .
The funny thing is, some items are actually memory keyed to each key. My wife always uses the heated seat and when she uses her key it always comes on, whereas with my key its remembering my AC settings and the heated seat doesn't come on.

So its not like they couldn't just build in the logic for the seats being keyed to memory just like these other items. I know some people say big deal, but my wife is 4'11" and I am over 6', so yeah, bit of a pain.
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Thank you for the great information, but how dare anyone bag on the incomparable Apple IIGS?! As a IIe zealot (still have it) I was always jealous of the GS' vastly superior sound and graphics. But, yeah, not exactly Virtual Cockpit levels, eh?

I wonder if the headlights can be adjusted a bit to project farther out without blinding oncoming traffic.

Coming from a few RWD cars in a row, I am curious to see how neutral the TT/TTS can feel when pushed given it's fundamental FWD underpinnings. Per my other thread, I'm still trying to find the weight distribution for the TT/TTS, but no luck yet.

Because they're OEM tires, I can't find too much info on the Hankooks. Even Hankook's website doesn't have much detail. Can you please check the treadwear rating on the tire and post back? The Potenza S001s are 280, so I suspect the Hankooks are similar. Thanks in advance.
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I was thinking of making a similar post re: my TTS... I will after a few more miles and after I have had a chance to push her a little, but let me comment on a couple of your things:

Seat Memory (lack thereof): Single most disappointing non-feature. All this tech and...

Virtual Cockpit: Starting to get used to it, and it is an amazing piece of kit. I am actually surprised how quickly it has become the new normal.

Headlights: Have not noticed problem with distance, however, I love that they light up to sides as you turn. Also, on the freeway I have never had lights that better lit up reflectors, both in the road and in signs above and to the side. It almost feels as if there is light projected up for the sole purpose of illuminating freeway signs. Very cool.

I'll have more when I hit 1,000 - half way there.
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It's hard to judge the color mismatch from a photo, but if it was something I was gonna see every time I would probably raise the issue with the dealer and try to get them to fix that. I expect that to match on a brand new car.
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I have already hit 5k miles and had my first service done. You guys are slacking. I bought the week they hit the states and may have been one of the first in Colorado to own one. I have been doing a LOT of 4 hour a day commutes though. I agree with all that has been said. I would disagree about the Porsche like handling though. I am coming from a 2014 Boxster and I can tell you I could push the corners a LOT harder in that car. But its still respectable. There is a lag in the power until you get the turbo to kick in at about 2.8RPM. But once it kicks in, the car MOVES! I looked at my car data and it looks like since I got the car 5k miles ago, I have averaged 33mpg. Lots of highway driving though.
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Ahhhh, my much appreciated ][GS. Good to hear we've progressed however.

Thanks Josh, nice insight and enjoy your TT. I was looking forward to the full-LED headlights but perhaps now not so much. I guess more use of the high beams will be in order.

I don't expect Porsche handling Steve and Josh, but good to hear it's respectably in the ballpark.
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Josh, nice review. The dealer using a good body shop should be able to correct the paint issue. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a quick, reasonable cost "fix" for seat memory. It was a gripe when I bought my '14 TTS and I'm sorry to see Audi still hasn't paid attention to its customers.

Regarding the power issue, I'm sure the underworld will produce a flash tune shortly for enhanced performance. Look for it.

Meanwhile, I'm impatiently waiting for the RS. Hopefully it will come stateside with memory seats and DSG. If that happens, the dealer can have his way with me.😀

All said, enjoy your new car. It's a beauty!
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I think the TTRS is many years out. They're estimating 2017 for Europe, which would mean 2018 US?

Have you test driven the new TTS Nin Din Din? While it doesn't have the Mk2 TTRS performance numbers or sound, it also doesn't weigh as much and is faster than the Mk2 TTS.


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