S4iowa

Ok... So I put a used cluster in my dash to see if it worked as was indicated by the person who sold it to me.

I turned the key too far, and when I put my old (original) cluster back in, my car was locked down and would not start.

Is there some procedure I can follow if I get the SKC from the dealer?

Measuring blocks from instruments this AM:
22: 0,1,0,0
23: 0,0,0,6
24, 0,0,0,0

When I left it with them, it had 4 keys coded... now has none. ?

They don't have any clue on what to do and have had the car for 2 days now.

audix

You will not get the SKC from a dealer. They cannot give it out anymore. You'll need to tow your car to them.

S4iowa

figure it out

S4iowa

not sure how this would happen, as all 4 keys are original to this cluster and Immo system

diagnosticator1

available or required, because the existing key transponders have already been matched to the Immo in the original cluster.
If that for some reason does not work in your situation, then hooking the car up to VAS scan tool, and the GEKO IMMO re adaptation server in Germany via the Internet, will reset and reconfigure the keys and Immo as needed to function properly. It's really incomprehensible to me that the dealership is not up to speed and experienced with this procedure, for a dealership, it's routine stuff.

S4iowa

Any thoughts as to what would keep that from working?

diagnosticator1

Just to clarify, the online GEKO procedure is not successful?

S4iowa

it is throwing codes, they won't clear because I think they are not getting the cluster adapted correctly, it's not talking to other control modules from what I can tell...

Friday,18,July,2008,18:34:54:59353
VCDS Version: Release 805.0
Data version: 20080625



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Chassis Type: 8E - Audi A4 B6/B7
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65 67
69 75 76 77

VIN: WAUPL68E74A091399 Mileage: 111490km/69276miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 8E0 910 560 A HW: 8E0 907 560
Component: 4.2L V8/5V G 0020
Coding: 0007711
Shop #: WSC 02326 444 53518

3 Faults Found:
18107 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from Steering Wheel Electronics
P1699 - 008 - Implausible Signal
18043 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from A/C Controller
P1635 - 008 - Implausible Signal
17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
P1570 - 008 - Implausible Signal
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
Part No: 8E0 614 517 Q
Component: ABS/ESP allrad 3033
Coding: 04595
Shop #: WSC 02319

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
Part No: 8E0 820 043 AD
Component: A4 Klimaautomat 1219
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 06435

3 Faults Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
49-00 - No Communications
00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
49-00 - No Communications
00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
27-00 - Implausible Signal

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.lbl
Part No: 8E0 907 279 F
Component: int. Lastmodul USA 0517
Coding: 01013
Shop #: WSC 63351

4 Faults Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
49-00 - No Communications
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
79-00 - Please Check Fault Codes
00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
49-00 - No Communications
02104 - Light Detection Sensor (G399)
29-10 - Short to Ground - Intermittent

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Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
Part No: 8E0 035 593
Component: SDAR SIRIUS 0010

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
35-10 - - - Intermittent

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 655 C
Component: Airbag 8.4EP 3001
Coding: 0010607
Shop #: WSC 63351 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
Part No: 8E0 953 549 N
Component: Lenks·ulenmodul 0611
Coding: 01041
Shop #: WSC 63351

2 Faults Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
49-00 - No Communications
00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
49-00 - No Communications

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.lbl
Part No: 8E0 920 980 M
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D37
Coding: 03200
Shop #: WSC 02326
WAUPL68E74A091399 AUZ6Z0C0243637

15 Faults Found:
00771 - Fuel Level Sensor (G)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
00438 - Fuel Supply Sensor 2 (G169)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01128 - Immobilizer Pickup Coil (D2)
35-00 - -
00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
49-00 - No Communications
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
49-00 - No Communications
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
49-00 - No Communications
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387)
49-00 - No Communications
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J398)
49-00 - No Communications
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388)
49-00 - No Communications
00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)
49-00 - No Communications
01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255)
49-00 - No Communications
01304 - Radio
49-00 - No Communications
01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
49-00 - No Communications

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: 8E0-959-760.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory R2 F 0305
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 00000

3 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
06-10 - Signal too High - Intermittent
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
49-00 - No Communications
00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
49-00 - No Communications

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 433 BB
Component: Komfortger·t T7B 1411
Coding: 10828
Shop #: WSC 63351

Part No: 8E1959801
Component: T?rsteuer.FS BRM 0003

Part No: 8E1959802E
Component: T?rsteuer.BF BRM 0003

Part No: 8E0959801A
Component: T?rsteuer.HL BRM 0003

Part No: 8E0959802A
Component: T?rsteuer.HR BRM 0004

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
49-00 - No Communications

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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
Part No: 4Z7 907 357
Component: dynamische LWR D09
Coding: 00060
Shop #: WSC 63351

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 8E0 035 195 H
Component: symphony II NP2 0400
Coding: 01220
Shop #: WSC 02304

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
49-00 - No Communications

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Address 75: Telematics Labels: None
Part No SW: 8E0 035 616 A HW: 8E0 035 616 A
Component: Telematik USA1
Coding: 0005003
Shop #: WSC 02319 444 58897

2 Faults Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
004 - No Signal/Communication
01531 - Emergency Battery
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - MIL ON

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diagnosticator1

Here is the MB labels for the blocks in your OP:
"022,0,Immobilizer I
022,1,Engine Start,permitted,Specification: 1 = Yes\nRange: 0 = No / 1 = Yes
022,2,Engine (ECU),responds,Specification: 1 = Yes\nRange: 0 = No / 1 = Yes
022,3,Key Status,,Specification: 1 = Key OK\nRange: 0 = Key not OK / 1 = Key OK
022,4,Number of,adapted Keys,Specification: 1...8
;
023,0,Immobilizer II
023,1,Variable Code,authorized,Specification: 1 = Yes\nRange: 0 = No / 1 = Yes
023,2,Key Status,(Transponder),Range: 0 = not locked / 1 = locked
023,3,Fixed Code,authorized,Specification: 1 = Yes\nRange: 0 = No / 1 = Yes
023,4,Immobilizer,Status,Specification: 6 (Immobilizer adapted)
; 4 - New Customer Service / Delivery Condition (Replacement Instrument Cluster)
; 5 - Customer Service locked / Adaptation Data Programmed in Customer Service
; 6 - Immobilizer adapted / Normal Function Condition
; 7 - Key Adaptation active
;
024,0,Immobilizer III
024,1,Lock-Time,Instrument Cluster
024,2,Lock-Time,Engine (ECU)
024,3,Lock-Time,Emergency Unlock
024,4,Lock-Time,Transponder"

Notice that the block 23, field 4, is "6" for "Immobilizer adapted / Normal Function Condition" and MB 22, ECU responds.

It's seems like one of the harness connectors at the IC is not conntected fully, If that is the case it's the one with the CAN buss terminals. Nothing on the Comfort CAN buss or the Infotainment CAN buss can communicate with the IC/Immo. Several controllers on the Power Train CAN buss can't communicate with the IC/Immo either, IE the Steering Column Control Module.
Has the harness connnectors been examined for proper engagement into the IC?

S4iowa

including the steering column electronics... which is where the transponder pick up ring is.... we have failure to start.

I would like to know how or what would cause the cluster to not be able to communicate with those modules, if there is some lost coding somewhere that would make this happen...