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Old 10-04-2012, 08:25 PM
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hi,

I have an 05 C6, and am trying to use vag com to do some simply mods, like the windows and double beep for unlock. I am following the instructions that I find in the forums, but do not or dont know how do initiate long coding in my vag com, as it appears I dont have that option??

Please let me know what I am doing wrong, and please excuse me ignorance. all help is very greatly appreciated.

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Do you have the full version of VCDS and the geniune Ross Tech cable? If so, you need to go into the correct module such as 17-Instruments (or whatever your instructions say to do), then Coding-07. The Coding-07 option can take a couple seconds to connect, and then you should see a box to click called Long Coding Helper.

Once you're in that area, you may have checkboxes you can work with, or you may have to count bits within a specific byte. Remember that the bits are counted from 0 to 7 (not 1 to 8). Also, bit 0 is at the far right of the 8 characters and bit 7 is at the far left.

I hope this helps. Post a picture of your screen if you still have trouble or run an auto scan and post the output log so that people including Ross Tech who visit this forum can review what you have.
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yes, I have the full version of vag com and a ross-tech cable. Its weird, I dont have the option for long coding helper when im in the module? Ill post a pic asap


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How are you making out with this issue OP? If needed, I can take a pic of a module with long coder on my PC one night this week and post it.
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Originally Posted by kmongru
yes, I have the full version of vag com and a ross-tech cable. Its weird, I dont have the option for long coding helper when im in the module? Ill post a pic asap

thanks
Your car does not use Long Coding. You have to coding for the windows the old fashion way using math. The information can be found in the Ross-Tech Wiki: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index..._System#Coding
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Originally Posted by bearthebruce
Your car does not use Long Coding. You have to coding for the windows the old fashion way using math. The information can be found in the Ross-Tech Wiki: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index..._System#Coding
im sorry, is it possible for someone to give me an example of how to code something then on this car? I have a vag come thread we lots of codes I would love to try, but just need some small advice.

I used to do coding on my B5, for some reason I cant get the hang of this?
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The most important thing is to write down the original coding before you begin.

Let's say for example (and these are just examples}:
- original coding is 05
- 05 = 01 locking confirmation + 04 terminal 87 logic for US

If you wanted to add unlock confirmation, you add +2 per the wiki
+1 = Central Locking Closing Confirmation (Blink)
+2 = Central Locking Opening Confirmation (Blink)
+4 = Terminal 87 USA Logic
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7 is the new coding

Some are more complex, such as key personalization.
+00032 = Comfort Opening of Front Window Regulators
+00064 = Comfort Opening of Rear Window Regulators
+00128 = Comfort Opening of Sunroof

If you wanted all those functions you would add them up to get 32+64+128=224
Then you add 224 to the current value.
Some things like window opening via key fob require multiple codings/channel/adaptions to make them work.
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thank you so very much for this information. I believe I understand it now.

Now help me with this,

heres an example I have:

Enable Gauge Test/Needle Sweep
[17 - Instruments] [Coding - 07] -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 1
Bit 0 - Check the box for "Gauge Test/Needle Sweep active

I have alot of instructions that list the codes like this,
what do I do in this case???


Thanks in advance
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Some functions are available in the drop down on adaption if the long coding is not available.

See here: http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/a...on_screen.html

I've run into a lot of threads/blogs that show the long coding helper, but it wasn't available on my Audi.
So it was either:
- a different year and the procedure didn't apply
- coding was done differently
- it did not apply to my year/model

Sometimes scrolling through the channels will give you an idea based on what VCDS knows and tells you in the upper areas.

This post shows how long coding helper made a change to bit 2 math for example:
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/sho...64&postcount=3

Just be careful, you could make modules inoperable if you go too crazy

Also since you have the full version, don't hesitate to contact Ross-Tech directly.
They have excellent support.
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Originally Posted by kmongru
thank you so very much for this information. I believe I understand it now.

Now help me with this,

heres an example I have:

Enable Gauge Test/Needle Sweep
[17 - Instruments] [Coding - 07] -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 1
Bit 0 - Check the box for "Gauge Test/Needle Sweep active

I have alot of instructions that list the codes like this,
what do I do in this case???


Thanks in advance
What you do is buy a newer/different car. You are trying to use instructions meant for some other vehicle.
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