H&R Coilovers
(Street and Ultra)
By: Ram Narayan
Email: NA
(Jan-02)
Make & model of car the product was used on: 2001 S4
Avant
What is below is a comparison of the H&R Street coilovers
and the H&R Ultra coilovers. I apologize for the
sloppiness - the bulk of this is lifted from some recent posts,
with some additional parenthetical comments.
I had the Ultras for about 3500 miles, and I didn't mind the
very firm damping around town though many would find the springs
too stiff, it wasn't harsh. Overall the low-speed ride (<25
mph) was very satisfying, stiff and solid. The bigger issue was
on the highway - far too bouncy on even the most minor of
undulations (the springs are around twice as stiff as stock),
not enough body control. It was honestly unacceptable for a
$40,000+ car to have such an un-refined ride. I also found
(though you didn't ask) that the height was too low to drive on
very bad streets (and, in my opinion, too low looks-wise). On
the plus side, the handling and grip were amazing. I also think
the steering feel is improved. (Let me add, in
support of the Ultras, that the cornering was exceptionally
flat, and in turn in was delicious, especially entering a turn
on the brakes. Directional stability on the highway was
slightly impaired. Overall though it kind of made me sick
to think that I had paid $1700 to destroy the ride of the car.)
I switched to the streets, which I've had for about 3500 miles
as well. They're close to perfect. I think they're about 35-40%
stiffer springs than stock, which is stiff, they flatten the
cornering, and they reduce the up-and-down movement of the stock
setup. I think they're slightly under-damped, but that's a
minority opinion. While the ride is definitely firm, I think the
improved body control gives a net improvement in ride over
stock. The ride height is nice, not overly showy.
(In direct comparison to the Ultras - while this is certainly
better than stock, its is by no means a track setup. In
combination with the Neuspeed 19mm swaybar it feels pretty
neutral, but the slightly dead steering and sacrifice in roll
control make this strictly a street setup. I think the
ride is a little stiff (not harsh) for the common comment
"it should have been like this from the factory", but
I certainly think its very very good.) Overall - it's
tough to recommend the Ultras for the streets, and especially so
if you do a lot of highway driving or live in an area with less
than perfect roads. With that said the handling benefits are
substantial (over both the stock setup and the streets). If you
track the car regularly, you can probably bear the sacrifice in
ride, though its very much on the edge. (Both Ultra
and Street were set at the highest setting. For the Ultra
this is around 1 3/4" lower than stock (slight variance
Front to Rear) and for the Street it's around 1" (maybe a
smidge less in the rear).) In specific answer to your
question - the stock setup beats the streets on truly awful
roads, but for the most part in any other situation the streets
take it. If you decide to go Ultra you will make sacrifices on
anything less than perfect roads. (This in response to a
question on the ride quality in city and highway driving.)
Side note: H&R has been shipping the rear coilovers with the
upper bushing insufficiently tightened. One of mine came apart,
leaving me with a lot of noise and no shock in one corner. When
you get them, make sure that this is tightened, and use Loc-Tite.
This has happened to more than one person. I had mine installed
at AWE Tuning, and they did the repair work as well. While I
think the shock should be fine (it just gets compressed and
stays that way, and the top end rattles around a bit) there is a
possibility that the threads could be damaged. H&R says the
proper course of action is to replace the whole shock, and that
should mean they will warranty the part if you do. Also, while
you're at it, I'd re-tighten the other side. Todd at AWE
indicated that mine was the third he'd seen come apart. You
might want to call them for more info.
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