Tech Article Title Author Date
S4 Engine Pull Mike2kS4::ASP 2007


Doing a motor-pull is a pretty lengthy series of simple tasks. It's not super-difficult for those with decent wrenching skill, it's just time consuming. If you've pulled an engine out of another platform before, you should have little difficulty doing so on the B5S4.

Translation for the B5-S4 forum literate: On a 1-10 scale, with .1 being a Midget and 10 being a Piggie, I'd grade it as a 6.5 difficulty level to complete this task.

Just ensure you have prepared a bit, allowed for ample time and take things step-by-step and you'll be OK. If not, well, I hear mass-transit is usually on or close to schedule.

<Prep>

Anyhow, get access to a nice set of conventional tools (ratchets, sockets, extensions, universals). In addition, Allen and Torx socket sets are vital as is a 10mm triple-square for the front driveshafts. an 8mm ball-socket allen key comes in handy for the turbo manifold bolts. A set of elcheapo (thin) $10 wal-mart combo wrenches (make sure it has a 19mm!) come in handy while installing the turbo lines as does a 5mm ball-end allen key.

If you're doing a clutch, a crank-lock pin is quite helpful, as is a 24mm socket to rotate the crank.

Of course, your normal jack, cherry picker, jackstands, balance bar and such are needed. A decent sized 2x4 and a sturdy piece of plywood come in handy as well, especially if you're separating the tranny.

Oh, don't forget the grease for the CV's!

<on the ground (or ramps)>
-Remove ground from battery
-Pull belly-pan
-Take out airbox and Y
-Remove fuel/evap lines
-Remove small vacuum-canister line going to the drivers side fender. On M box cars there's a squeeze-release fitting adjacent to the ABS pump.
-Detach electrical connectors adjacent to ABS pump, leading to radiator support.
-Pull headlights, bumper, remove front pusher fan and condenser
-Pull IC shrouds
-Swing AC condenser to the side
-Remove rad support (Don't forget the temp sensor connector on the lower hose and the hood-latch cable!)
-Pull expansion tank
-Pull Bipipe
-Pull intercoolers
-Remove bolt from coolant hardline on block going to expansion tank and detach lower coolant hoses off the oil cooler(Helps with next step)
-Pull AC compressor and swing to the side (2 bolts front, one back, 13mm and a bracket under the engine)
-Detach grounds, little brown ones on top drivers-side and big one on bottom passengers side
-Detach all wire connectors from firewall
-Remove ECU and unplug the harness from deep inside the ECU box car (little multi-colored connectors), flop it on top of the engine
-take positive lead from battery, detach chassis lead and pull the terminal through firewall (the grommet comes out too) and place on top of engine
-Loosen wire looms attached to frame-rail
-Remove PS hoses, one hardline in the rear running parallel to the firewall and another to the engine from the reservoir
-Detach shifter (Just the two bolts holding the rods onto the shifter)
-Detach heater core hoses in between firewalls covered by an accordion shaped sheath.
-Remove IC hoses
-Loosen driveshaft bolts from center of the wheel hub while car is on the ground

<jack car up>

-unbolt exhaust from DP's
-Remove rear driveshaft cover
-Unbolt front CV's and rear driveshaft (may have to jack up one rear tire to rotate the DS to get all the bolts if you don't have an adequate extension)
-Unbolt motor and trans mounts
-Unbolt Tie bar(s)

<Lift engine up and out a few inches>

-Remove clutch slave cylinder
-Fish heater core hoses out
-Pull CV axles out under the trans, straight out... the left axle goes towards the right wheel and vice-versa. (You also may have to lift the engine up and forward some more, which it should do readily... since you detached the above.) Also, here is where you regret not unbolting those axle bolts as you should have while the car was on the ground.
-Pull trans mounts

<Yoink!>

Things that differ on the reinstall:

Put the axles in as the engine is a bit high and about 6" from its final position.

Putting in the clutch slave is a PITA, lube the rubber portion that seals to the tranny. Also, be sure to put it in as the engine is going in, not after it's settled.

One person should be UNDER the engine, guiding the shifter shafts into the rubber grommets. Lube the shafts a bit (!) so they go in easily... or you can just pull the shifter-box but it's a slightly more difficult maneuver.

Be mindful of the orientation of the engine/trans so it lines up straight.

<Helpful hints on things that could potentially ruin an otherwise rapturous engine-pull experience>

Crush washers... the nomenclature is pretty obvious: Tweak them till you feel them tighten and then crush a bit. Some of the fittings on the turbos are impossible to get to with the engine in, so double, triple and quadruple check all this stuff. Same goes for the short compressor outlet hoses: I tighten the worm-clamps till I see the outlying band of the clamp tweak a bit. Also, ensure the bolt in the worm-clamps face downward so they can be accessed from under the car if a problem ever arises.

If you strip an allen bolt, try a torx of similar size... it'll probably work. If not, you can probably pound a torx of the next size on and it'll work, once.

The turbo to manifold bolts are notorious for stripping. If trying the above fails you, an angle grinder is your best friend. Let the sparks fly! Just grind the head off the bolt and it'll come right off.

Oh, and the secret to life: Live it!