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Old 01-19-2012, 01:45 PM
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Hey everyone. Not too in the know with car knowledge, but wanted to get your opinion on my recent experience with trying to get an excessive oil consumption test. I took my car and and mentioned it like everyone else - they said they replaced the PCV and something else. Fast forward to when I pick up my car, and I check my engine oil levels and it says "Please Drain Oil".

I call my service adviser, and he says that it's normal and what they do for an oil consumption test (umm ok). Anyhow, I think this is a complete lie because 1) Why would they add more engine oil than necessary unless they want the oil level to read higher than it should when I go back and 2) It's not good for the engine (so I'm told). Tried calling my service adviser today to have them remove the excess oil, but still waiting for a return call.

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Old 01-19-2012, 01:50 PM
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Hey everyone. Not too in the know with car knowledge, but wanted to get your opinion on my recent experience with trying to get an excessive oil consumption test. I took my car and and mentioned it like everyone else - they said they replaced the PCV and something else. Fast forward to when I pick up my car, and I check my engine oil levels and it says "Please Drain Oil".

I call my service adviser, and he says that it's normal and what they do for an oil consumption test (umm ok). Anyhow, I think this is a complete lie because 1) Why would they add more engine oil than necessary unless they want the oil level to read higher than it should when I go back and 2) It's not good for the engine (so I'm told). Tried calling my service adviser today to have them remove the excess oil, but still waiting for a return call.

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Oh, and a few more details about my car. Have a B8 A4 2009 model with 45k miles on it.

Should I even be concerned about the excess oil they added if they replaced the PCV and the grommet(?). Those will just fix the issue any way?
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Old 01-19-2012, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ushde View Post
"Please Drain Oil".

I call my service adviser, and he says that it's normal and what they do for an oil consumption test (umm ok). Anyhow, I think this is a complete lie because 1) Why would they add more engine oil than necessary unless they want the oil level to read higher than it should when I go back and 2)
There's a bulletin and very specific process for evaluating oil consumption. I'm not certain that over-filling the oil by that amount is part of the process. However, it sure will mask your ability to determine how much oil your car is consuming.

I had to drain off a bunch of oil on my 2011 car when it was new so it would read on the MMI. I did this a few days after taking ownership.

Do you believe you are consuming quite a bit of oil? Did the car suffer a "soft" break-in?

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Old 01-19-2012, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by uberwgn View Post
There's a bulletin and very specific process for evaluating oil consumption. I'm not certain that over-filling the oil by that amount is part of the process. However, it sure will mask your ability to determine how much oil your car is consuming.

I had to drain off a bunch of oil on my 2011 car when it was new so it would read on the MMI. I did this a few days after taking ownership.

Do you believe you are consuming quite a bit of oil? Did the car suffer a "soft" break-in?

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I think the dealer is being sneaky with over-filling the oil! I've been consuming a qt every 1200mi these days, so I know I've got the same issues as other people on the board.

I'll see if I can find the thread on draining the oil. I'm not sure what this "soft" break-in is
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U, R U the original owner of the car?

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I'll see if I can find the thread on draining the oil. I'm not sure what this "soft" break-in is
"Soft" break could be described as baby-ing the car for the first couple thousand of miles, aka pedaling around town like your 90 year-old grandmother. The engines end up having ring sealing issues and likely never completely seat

There is lots of material on this in this and other Audi forums.
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Old 01-20-2012, 02:43 PM
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I have a 2012 Q5 2.0T, 11/11 build date. I did a soft break in, oil change at 1000 miles, car now has 3700 plus. I will change the oil at 5000 miles and continue on 5000 schedule. Mobil 1 0w-40 and Mahn oil filter(VW/AudiOEM). I also installed a real dip stick. Both the MMI and the stick show full (2700 miles since oil change). So no oil consumption. I will continue to watch it. My son's Saab 2.0T holds 6.5 quarts of oil to the Audi's 5 quarts. I broke the Saab in the same way. In both cars I do 5000 mile oil changes. Saab has 43,000 miles and no oil consumption. I have found over the years that this schedule works great for me. My BMW goes 7500 miles vs 15000 per schedule. I just change it between the "free ones".
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I had the same issue with a CPO car about 2 weeks after driving off lot
2009 A4.

Part 1:
PRV valve replace
Crankshaft Vibration Damper
Crankshaft Seal
Software update

Still burned oil at approx same rate.

Part 2:
4 New pistons
Lots of gaskets

Hope this works!

Anybody know what Part 3 is?

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Old 03-05-2012, 05:22 AM
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I do exactly the same and no 'over consumption' issues.

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I have a 2012 Q5 2.0T, 11/11 build date. I did a soft break in, oil change at 1000 miles, car now has 3700 plus. I will change the oil at 5000 miles and continue on 5000 schedule. Mobil 1 0w-40 and Mahn oil filter(VW/AudiOEM). I also installed a real dip stick. Both the MMI and the stick show full (2700 miles since oil change). So no oil consumption. I will continue to watch it. My son's Saab 2.0T holds 6.5 quarts of oil to the Audi's 5 quarts. I broke the Saab in the same way. In both cars I do 5000 mile oil changes. Saab has 43,000 miles and no oil consumption. I have found over the years that this schedule works great for me. My BMW goes 7500 miles vs 15000 per schedule. I just change it between the "free ones".
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:30 AM
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I used to drive a 2008 VW GTI 2.0T and that thing drank oil like crazy. 1000 miles after an oil change and I would be a quart low. It never got to the point where the oil light came on but it erked me seeing smoke come out under hard acceleration of my "new" car. Had a 1.8T before that, which never burned a drop.. Now I am on my B7 A4 2.0T (bought used at 60k miles) and we will see how this goes.
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I have an 06 A4 2.0T with 81K miles on it. No consumption at all. I change my own oil at 7,500 mile intervals. Now, I do the same with the 2011 Q5 with the 2.0T. It now has 20K miles on it. It has needed a quart added to it at 4,000 miles (of the 7,500 interval) but I wonder if I'm partially to blame as I used 5W30 weight oil during my last oil change (Mobil 1 of course, this is what BJs carries). I will move back to the recommended 40 weight oil with my next oil change and see if that makes a difference.
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