Codes 17755 and 17748 after timing belt change, plus 18258, 18265, 01314
Before the timing belt change, I installed a stage 1 tune on the ECU, car drove fine.
After the time belt change, I am getting the above 2 codes, plus Auto Trans and ABS: 18258 - Powertrain Data Bus, 18265 - Load Signal; plus HVAC and Instruments: 01314 - Engine Control Module With those multiple codes, I suspect an interlinked common problem (missing ground?) VCDS Wiki says regarding the 2 cam codes: Possible Causes Timing Belt/Chain incorrectly installed Timing Chain probably lengthened Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) faulty Engine Speed Sensor (G28) faulty Possible Solutions Check Timing Belt/Chain installation Use Measuring Value Blocks (MVB) to Check Timing Chain Check/Replace Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) Check/Replace Engine Speed Sensor (G28) Special Notes When found in a 30-valve V6 (yes; 2.7T) gasoline Audi engine (such as EPB or BEL), DTC 17755 may be stored as well (yes). If both of these codes are displayed simultaneously, and the codes only appear after the motor is revved above 1800RPM (need to check), then the issue is likely that the cam chain tensioners were installed on the incorrect heads (drivers' tensioner on passenger head, etc). Note: cam chain tensioner NOT touched. Engine seems to be running fine. Here is the VAGcom scan: VCDS Version: Release 11.11.5 (x64) Data version: 20121222 Saturday,26,January,2013,16:41:16:36008 Chassis Type: 4B - Audi A6 C5 Scan: 01 02 03 06 08 15 16 17 18 22 34 35 36 37 45 55 56 57 65 67 75 76 77 VIN: WA1YD64B92N145852 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine Labels: 078-907-551-AZA.lbl Part No: 8D0 907 551 L Component: 2.7l V6/5VT G 0001 Coding: 06752 Shop #: WSC 02325 VCID: 3365A75D01B9C080ECE 2 Faults Found: 17755 - Camshaft Position Sensor 2 (G163) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28) P1347 - 35-00 - Incor. Correl. 17748 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28) P1340 - 35-00 - Incor. Correlation Readiness: 0010 0100 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl Part No: 4Z7 927 156 F Component: AG5 01V 2.7l5VT USA 1818 Coding: 01002 Shop #: WSC 02325 VCID: 4999E5B57335AA50B62 2 Faults Found: 18258 - Powertrain Data Bus P1850 - 35-10 - Missing Message from ECU - Intermittent 18265 - Load Signal P1857 - 35-10 - Error Message from ECU - Intermittent ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8D0-907-389.lbl Part No: 4Z7 907 389 A Component: ABS/ESP allrad D55 Coding: 06497 Shop #: WSC 00000 VCID: 4A9BDAB97633A148BF8 2 Faults Found: 18258 - Powertrain Data Bus P1850 - 35-10 - Missing Message from ECU - Intermittent 18265 - Load Signal P1857 - 35-00 - Error Message from ECU ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass Labels: None Part No: 4B0 959 760 C Component: Sitzmemory R1 BF 0103 Coding: 00003 Shop #: WSC 00000 VCID: 2D51B125E79D9670BAA No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 4B0-820-043-MY2.lbl Part No: 4B0 820 043 AD Component: A6-Klimavollautomat 0105 Coding: 00010 Shop #: WSC 02325 VCID: 5CB72CE1CCA72FF81D4 1 Fault Found: 01314 - Engine Control Module 49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4B0-959-655-AI84.lbl Part No: 4Z7 959 655 E Component: Airbag 8.4E 5000 Coding: 0000307 Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200 VCID: 51A9CDD5CB659290FE2 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4B0-920-xxx-17.lbl Part No: 4B0 920 981 P Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D11 Coding: 06264 Shop #: WSC 08701 VCID: 3365A75D01B9C080ECE WA1YD64B92N145852 AUZ7Z0B2126521 1 Fault Found: 01314 - Engine Control Module 49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 34: Level Control Labels: 4Z7-907-553.lbl Part No: 4Z7 907 553 E Component: - 2C1A1 D040 Coding: 25500 Shop #: WSC 09999 VCID: 479DE38D65215C20A06 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 35: Centr. Locks Labels: 4B0-962-258.lbl Part No: 4B0 962 258 J Component: Central Lock/Alarm D35 Coding: 15981 Shop #: WSC 02325 VCID: 306FA851F0AFFB9891C No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: None Part No: 4B0 959 760 B Component: Sitzmemory R1 F 0102 Coding: 00001 Shop #: WSC 00000 VCID: 2C57BC21DC879F78AD4 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 45: Inter. Monitor Labels: 4B0-951-178.lbl Part No: 4B0 951 178 A Component: Innenraumueberw. D04 Coding: 00102 Shop #: WSC 02325 VCID: 26434E09C26BA5287B0 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl Part No: 4Z7 907 357 Component: dynamische LWR D09 Coding: 00001 Shop #: WSC 03089 VCID: 040734811497B738054 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl Part No: 4B0 035 195 J Component: symphony II NP2 0050 Coding: 00201 Shop #: WSC 00000 VCID: 275D430DC561BC20406 No fault code found. 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I checked block 93 in VAGcom and it showed 23/21 degree Phase for bank 1/2. yikes.
Redid the timing. Now it is at a sane 6/5 degree phase. Strange. As always, I handcrank the engine 2x. Put the cam lock bar on and check TDC. All that was dandy the first time around. Only way phase can change (on the crank pulley, 20 degree is about an inch off the mark) is: - belt jumped - cam pulleys slipped on their shaft Both are scary thought. I suspect the cams slipping. For the first time, I used a torque wrench on the cam pulley bolts (rather than the build-into-my-arm wrenchometer). I also found after getting down there again that the timing belt tension was quite low for my taste (easily twist 90 degree). I will do the shake down very gradually with a constant eye on channel 93. |
This thread may help: https://www.audiworld.com/forums/sho....php?t=2833885
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