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tkinney80 03-05-2014 10:12 AM

Coil Problem or ICM Problem?
 
Hello guys I'm trying to diagnose a problem with a misfire and want to know if I should replace a coil pack or the ICM.

Vag Com Codes

16684 Multiple Cylinder Misfire Dedectet
P0300 - 35-00 - -

16689 Cylinder 5 Misfire Detected
P0305 - 35-00 - -

16686 Cylinder 2 Misfire Detected
P0302 - 35-00 - -


Here is what I have done, I removed all DTC's and it had the exact same codes pop up immediately each time thereafter. The car runs terribly, no power at all.

Then I moved the #2 coil I believe (drivers side bank center cylinder) to the #3 cylinder I believe (drivers side bank rear cylinder) and the trouble code followed the coil. When I moved the coils back to original positions the codes again followed the coil. I've also replaced all the spark plugs of course started with taht.

tkinney80 03-05-2014 10:56 AM

Forgot to mention, 01 Audi A6 2.7t Manual

georgeb944 03-05-2014 10:56 AM

If the code follows the one ignition coil that you have moved, replace it. The driver side center cylinder is #5, not #2. You moved it to #6, not #3, so it's kind of weird that the fault moved with the coil from #2 to #3.

There is also a possibility that there is more than one ignition coil that is bad. There is no law that two cannot be bad at the same time.

Use a magic marker to identify which ones you know to be bad, or you will find yourself putting bad ones back in the car.

tkinney80 03-05-2014 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by georgeb944 (Post 24546968)
If the code follows the one ignition coil that you have moved, replace it. The driver side center cylinder is #5, not #2. You moved it to #6, not #3, so it's kind of weird that the fault moved with the coil from #2 to #3.

There is also a possibility that there is more than one ignition coil that is bad. There is no law that two cannot be bad at the same time.

Use a magic marker to identify which ones you know to be bad, or you will find yourself putting bad ones back in the car.

It was a few days ago when I was doing the moving around so I may not be remembering it perfectly but it did seem that by moving one coil I could make the codes jump from the center two cylinders to the rear two though I may not recall the numbering correctly. Any input on where to get coils? I'm selling this car so I don't want to pay top dollar but of course I don't want to buy junk and cause more problems also so where do I find reasonably priced good coils?

georgeb944 03-06-2014 02:45 AM

I find the factory coils to be pretty good, and keep a couple in the rear cubby of the trunk. I typically spend about $20 (check ebay) for used ones, test them immediately on receipt, mark them as good and have them handy. I have two coils and one icm in each of my 2.7Ts at this point. I also carry my laptop and my vcds cable with me on long trips... Nothing would irritate me more than having to spend a fortune for a diagnosis or new ignition part while in another state.


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