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I had to order A4 because the dealer (Maund) does not have what I was looking for. All the A4s on the lot are overloaded (for me, anyway). So, I just ordered my A4 with Tip and Sport Pkg. The deal that we agreed on was invoice(base+sport)+tip(msrp)+5% invoice+dest+fee(159)+TTL. The salesman is Gordon Spencer. Before I finally placed the order, I had looked around dealership in TX and LA. Most offers were higher or close to what I have now. So, I went local. If you decide to go local, make sure all the charges are spelled out, and have them on writing. It is just to avoid future misunderstanding. Hope this info helps. Good luck on your search.