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Old 09-18-2006, 05:43 PM
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Default Question regarding the load reduction relay, ignition switch, and the bad headlight switch issue.

Did a bit of searching around on the forum and I can't come to a conclusion as to why things aren't working on the car.

<b>Non-functional:</b>

-Headlights/high-beams
-blower/fan (the AC display keeps going up and down, but no air)
-Fog lights (duh)
-Turn signals (but hazards work)
-Dash temp/tranny display (non-trip computer)

<b>Functional:</b>

-Parking lights
-High-beams (when pulling on the stalk to flash)
-Radio (concert)
-Hazard blinkers
-Rest of dashboard lighting



After searching, I've found a three likely culprits.

First, the load reduction relay mentioned <a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/a4/msgs/2494491.phtml">here</a>. But, when this relay malfunctions, the headlights aren't affected.

Soooo...

Second, the ignition switch mentioned <a href="https://www.audiworld.com/tech/elec91.shtml"> here</a>. But the tech article doesn't mention common symptoms and a search through the archives only points to a sticking key that doesn't rotate correctly back to the 'on' position, which mine isn't doing. Heck, the car starts fine. So what exactly would a faulty ignition switch cause?

AND...

Third, maybe it's a combination of the load reduction relay + a bad headlight switch mentioned in <a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/a4/msgs/2314120.phtml"> here</a>.

Anyone have any suggestions? I'm gonna run out and try to fix the headlight switch in a bit since I work until dusk tomorrow night, which means headlights are a good idea. But, as far as the switch and relay, if they are in need of replacement, I'd have to make time to visit the VW dealership tomorrow. :-\
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pull the relay and look at it. mine was visibly melted.
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Default I just did. The black plastic covering is still in good shape.

Can't get it open though.
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look at the white base...closely.
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Default if it was your ignition switch, your starter might not stop turning or

the key would not return to ACC. You could possibly have climate control/light issues because of the switch.
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Default Only the end of one of the plugs look a bit burnt...

Maybe that's it.

<img src="http://www.wickedjack.com/`misc/arelay2.jpg">

<img src="http://www.wickedjack.com/`misc/arelay3.jpg">

<img src="http://www.wickedjack.com/`misc/arelay4.jpg">
You can see the burned-looking plug quite well from this picture. Hopefully that means something's fuxored inside and that replacing it will solve these problems. :-\
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Default if you open it up you'll see its a molten glob.

<ul><li><a href="http://www.modifieda4.com/gallery/load-reduction-relay">http://www.modifieda4.com/gallery/load-reduction-relay</a</li></ul>
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Default Replaced with a newer model relay. Still no dice.

Old P/N: 443 951 253 J

New P/N: 7M0 951 253 A

The only differences are, instead of the '213' printed on top, it's now '100' and the new relay is 12V 70A, whereas the old one is 12V 60A.

Ideas?

Driving around without headlights and wipers in the rain is NOT fun. Not to mention no air. Ack!
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theres probably a fuse to that relay, have you checked ALL the fuses?
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I checked all the fuses in the fuse box on the side of the dash... all are okay.


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