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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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Default For the record....

I'm still impressed with the Avon M550 A/S tires I put on the avant. After todays little adventure near bear mountain (coi) I remain confident that I put an apropriate tire on the avant. Now at 4k miles Very pleased with these avons... they seem to be a good match for the comfortable avant while they still provide sufficient grip for some occasional goofing off or in todays case some extended goofing off.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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Default That's good to hear. I was thinking of getting them for my 17's to run year round.

I can get them for $85.00/ea. plus install from a local guy. I was going to run separate Winter/Summer setups, but I like the idea of having one set of wheels. The Avons looked to be the best price and performance for the money.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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Default I'm getting snows too.

but for the other 3/4 of the year I think they are a good tire for daily duties.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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unless money is an issue, a/s are worthless since they do everything poorly.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 03:24 AM
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Default That may be true, but

I don't run my car very hard where an all-season tire wouldn't keep up for Summer duties. As for Winter, I had Goodyear Regatta 2's on my last front wheel drive and they served me well for 4 years of winter driving. That said, I'm thinking a decent A/S should work well on my Quattro.

I've never run a really good/dedicated snow tire on any of my cars over the years, so I don't know what I may be missing. I'm used to sliding around and driving in poor conditions, I've done it for the last 21 years here in Wisconsin. I am looking forward to seeing how well the Quattro does in the slippery stuff, as I picked up this car last May.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 04:05 AM
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Default food for thought...(comment on cheap tires)

<ul><li><a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/wheel/msgs/82041.phtml">https://forums.audiworld.com/wheel/msgs/82041.phtml</a</li></ul>
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 05:07 AM
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Default Thanks for that info

I don't know how the TPT compares to their other tires, but I am loving my T1R's. The recent monsoon was no match for these tires. MUCH better in the rain than my previous tires (S03's).

I know that the T1R is not necessarily a cheap tire, but I got a good deal on them -- although not quite as cheap as the Avons.

A friend of mine wants to put all-seasons on his MB E320. And he is interested in Toyo, especially since I rave about my new tires. So he is thinking of taking advantage of the Toyo 45-day "test drive."
I'll be sure to tell him not to get the TPT.

But what about their other models?

Thanks!
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 06:08 AM
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Default Well, in order to avoid the issue I'm encountering, I would suggest looking at tires that

utilize the same compound technology used in their top end tires. I believe Bridgestone trickles down that compound technology from the S03 into some of their lower model all season touring tires. So that's a place to start.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 06:34 AM
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Default I think there is some truth to that concept but its a gross generalization

I'm never going to need summer only tires for the avant. I will likely never drive it hard enough during the 3 nice seasons to warrant more tire than what is on it now. Summer tires are also not the best idea during the cold fall mornings or cold spring mornings when the road and tires are both cold. Accordingly a winter tires will likely wear rapidly on warm spring and fall afternoons. An A/S tire may be better suited to mild or spirited driving during cold dry or cold moist conditions.

I like snow tires for the winter, for the usual reasons... better traction but more importantly better braking and control in poor conditions.

Now to say that the tires I have on the car now perform poorly is simply not accurate. I dont plan on using them in the snow and I dont plan on tracking them ever. So between those two extremes I think an A/S tire can serve me just fine.

Yes an all season tire gives up some summer performance and some winter performance too, however if you arent going to demand that the tire give you what the T1R or S03 do in the summer or what the Blizzak's do in the winter... I think an A/S is fine for spring/summer/fall use in my region without worrying about traction, excessive wear or hydroplaning. But again this is subjective to the individual's needs and the speciffic tire they are using.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 06:42 AM
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Default please remember that quattro lets you accelerate, but in the snow... you dont stop any quicker

and the added weight of the quattro system doesnt help you stop any quicker either. AWD can be dangerous because it lets you think WOW I've got traction... you only have as much traction as you do braking. with 2wd you have (roughly) twice as much braking as traction to accelerate... so be alert that you can go but you may not be able to stop quite like you can go.
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