2009 Audi A4 B8 143 TDI High Pressure Fuel Pump Failure?
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2009 Audi A4 B8 143 TDI High Pressure Fuel Pump Failure?
Hi,
Long time lurker on all these forums! Does this sound like a HPFP failure? I know low pressure fuel can have many causes but its the mechanical tap that worries me. It happened just now.
I was driving along at 30mph and the glow plug warning light started flashing. Thought it was just the DPF.
Put my foot down and it didn't accelerate. Then it started to slow down. Pulled over and it wouldn't rev above 1.5k. Then stalled. Now it just cranks over and intermittently starts - maybe 1 in 6 start, and I have to keep my foot down to stop it stalling. And it sounds like death. No leaks or smell of diesel.
I won't get the car home until tomorrow and will check out the fuel lines, filter and LPFP. But I primed the LPFP and it sounded fine - same as when I changed the filter about 10,000 miles ago.
Thing is, before I start taking bits off, is this just a noisy misfiring diesel or a very bad noise? Surely if the HPFP failed all of a sudden you would in no way have intermittent starting? Cos why would a cam driven pump *sometimes* work then not?
TIA!
Wednesday,09,August,2017,19:59:50:30949
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
Ross-Tech: Home
VIN: WAUZZZ8K09A242007 License Plate:
Chassis Type: 8K (8T0)
Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 42 46 47 52 53 56 62 72 77
VIN: WAUZZZ8K09A242007 Mileage: 210800km-130985miles
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010 (Just something I've caused, no issue, Euro headlight thing)
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAGA) Labels: 03L-906-022-CAG.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 022 MJ HW: 03L 906 022 B
Component: R4 2.0l TDI H01 9978
Revision: 11H01---
Coding: 0104002C18072118
Shop #: WSC 01930 002 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI03L906022MJ A01011
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI03L906022B.rod
VCID: 79F866FCF8A1B789AE-802C
4 Faults Found:
5211 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure
P0087 00 [101] - Too Low
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 210808 km
Date: 2017.08.09
Time: 19:51:34
Engine speed: 1474.00 /min
Normed load value: 34.9 %
Vehicle speed: 2 km/h
Coolant temperature: 62 °C
Intake air temperature: 26 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 13.380 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
Crankshaft speed (RPM): 1474.0 /min
Vehicle speed: 1.68 km/h
Mean injection quantity: 12.62 mg/stroke
Fuel temperature: 35.1 °C
Fuel high pressure: actual: 124800 hPa
Rail pressure regulation: status-Bit 0: 00000101
Inj Crv st Inj Char Act Val 0-Bit 0: 01011000
5212 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure
P0087 00 [101] - Too Low
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 210808 km
Date: 2017.08.09
Time: 19:51:34
Engine speed: 1297.50 /min
Normed load value: 81.6 %
Vehicle speed: 2 km/h
Coolant temperature: 62 °C
Intake air temperature: 26 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 13.400 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
Crankshaft speed (RPM): 1297.5 /min
Vehicle speed: 2.47 km/h
Mean injection quantity: 21.77 mg/stroke
Fuel temperature: 35.1 °C
Fuel high pressure: actual: 114100 hPa
Rail pressure regulation: status-Bit 0: 00000101
Inj Crv st Inj Char Act Val 0-Bit 0: 01011000
5215 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure
P0087 00 [101] - Too Low
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 210808 km
Date: 2017.08.09
Time: 19:51:34
Engine speed: 1458.00 /min
Normed load value: 47.8 %
Vehicle speed: 2 km/h
Coolant temperature: 62 °C
Intake air temperature: 26 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 13.380 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
Crankshaft speed (RPM): 1458.0 /min
Vehicle speed: 2.13 km/h
Mean injection quantity: 13.00 mg/stroke
Fuel temperature: 35.1 °C
Fuel high pressure: actual: 98100 hPa
Rail pressure regulation: status-Bit 0: 00000101
Inj Crv st Inj Char Act Val 0-Bit 0: 01011000
5231 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure
P0087 00 [101] - Too Low
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 210808 km
Date: 2017.08.09
Time: 19:51:36
Engine speed: 903.00 /min
Normed load value: 100.0 %
Vehicle speed: 2 km/h
Coolant temperature: 63 °C
Intake air temperature: 26 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 13.380 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
Crankshaft speed (RPM): 903.0 /min
Vehicle speed: 2.60 km/h
PCV p Set: 1.0369e+006 hPa
Fuel temperature: 35.2 °C
Fuel high pressure: actual: 115200 hPa
Rail pressure regulation: status-Bit 0: 00000100
Inj Crv st Inj Char Act Val 0-Bit 0: 01011000
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0
Long time lurker on all these forums! Does this sound like a HPFP failure? I know low pressure fuel can have many causes but its the mechanical tap that worries me. It happened just now.
I was driving along at 30mph and the glow plug warning light started flashing. Thought it was just the DPF.
Put my foot down and it didn't accelerate. Then it started to slow down. Pulled over and it wouldn't rev above 1.5k. Then stalled. Now it just cranks over and intermittently starts - maybe 1 in 6 start, and I have to keep my foot down to stop it stalling. And it sounds like death. No leaks or smell of diesel.
I won't get the car home until tomorrow and will check out the fuel lines, filter and LPFP. But I primed the LPFP and it sounded fine - same as when I changed the filter about 10,000 miles ago.
Thing is, before I start taking bits off, is this just a noisy misfiring diesel or a very bad noise? Surely if the HPFP failed all of a sudden you would in no way have intermittent starting? Cos why would a cam driven pump *sometimes* work then not?
TIA!
Wednesday,09,August,2017,19:59:50:30949
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
Ross-Tech: Home
VIN: WAUZZZ8K09A242007 License Plate:
Chassis Type: 8K (8T0)
Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 42 46 47 52 53 56 62 72 77
VIN: WAUZZZ8K09A242007 Mileage: 210800km-130985miles
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010 (Just something I've caused, no issue, Euro headlight thing)
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAGA) Labels: 03L-906-022-CAG.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 022 MJ HW: 03L 906 022 B
Component: R4 2.0l TDI H01 9978
Revision: 11H01---
Coding: 0104002C18072118
Shop #: WSC 01930 002 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI03L906022MJ A01011
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI03L906022B.rod
VCID: 79F866FCF8A1B789AE-802C
4 Faults Found:
5211 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure
P0087 00 [101] - Too Low
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 210808 km
Date: 2017.08.09
Time: 19:51:34
Engine speed: 1474.00 /min
Normed load value: 34.9 %
Vehicle speed: 2 km/h
Coolant temperature: 62 °C
Intake air temperature: 26 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 13.380 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
Crankshaft speed (RPM): 1474.0 /min
Vehicle speed: 1.68 km/h
Mean injection quantity: 12.62 mg/stroke
Fuel temperature: 35.1 °C
Fuel high pressure: actual: 124800 hPa
Rail pressure regulation: status-Bit 0: 00000101
Inj Crv st Inj Char Act Val 0-Bit 0: 01011000
5212 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure
P0087 00 [101] - Too Low
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 210808 km
Date: 2017.08.09
Time: 19:51:34
Engine speed: 1297.50 /min
Normed load value: 81.6 %
Vehicle speed: 2 km/h
Coolant temperature: 62 °C
Intake air temperature: 26 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 13.400 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
Crankshaft speed (RPM): 1297.5 /min
Vehicle speed: 2.47 km/h
Mean injection quantity: 21.77 mg/stroke
Fuel temperature: 35.1 °C
Fuel high pressure: actual: 114100 hPa
Rail pressure regulation: status-Bit 0: 00000101
Inj Crv st Inj Char Act Val 0-Bit 0: 01011000
5215 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure
P0087 00 [101] - Too Low
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 210808 km
Date: 2017.08.09
Time: 19:51:34
Engine speed: 1458.00 /min
Normed load value: 47.8 %
Vehicle speed: 2 km/h
Coolant temperature: 62 °C
Intake air temperature: 26 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 13.380 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
Crankshaft speed (RPM): 1458.0 /min
Vehicle speed: 2.13 km/h
Mean injection quantity: 13.00 mg/stroke
Fuel temperature: 35.1 °C
Fuel high pressure: actual: 98100 hPa
Rail pressure regulation: status-Bit 0: 00000101
Inj Crv st Inj Char Act Val 0-Bit 0: 01011000
5231 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure
P0087 00 [101] - Too Low
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 210808 km
Date: 2017.08.09
Time: 19:51:36
Engine speed: 903.00 /min
Normed load value: 100.0 %
Vehicle speed: 2 km/h
Coolant temperature: 63 °C
Intake air temperature: 26 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 13.380 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
Crankshaft speed (RPM): 903.0 /min
Vehicle speed: 2.60 km/h
PCV p Set: 1.0369e+006 hPa
Fuel temperature: 35.2 °C
Fuel high pressure: actual: 115200 hPa
Rail pressure regulation: status-Bit 0: 00000100
Inj Crv st Inj Char Act Val 0-Bit 0: 01011000
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0
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