a few suspension questions
#31
AudiWorld Member
True. And I would think the vast majority of shops would follow that practice.
#32
AudiWorld Super User
Needless to say, it wasnt long until AOA issued a tire pressure statement for every car at delivery. I guess enough people were complaining to corporate that there were issues. Anyway, I dont think that did much to correct the situation.
#33
It is interesting that for my car the recommended pressure for the front tires is only 1 PSI different going from normal to full load. In my experience, the rears do not affect the ride quality so much as fronts do, so going from normal to full load pressure might not accept ride so much. As I have noted I actually feel the car rides better when I put 37 front/35 rear.
#34
AudiWorld Member
I liked how it felt.. also it's a compromise between all seasons and
summer
#35
AudiWorld Member
It is interesting that for my car the recommended pressure for the front tires is only 1 PSI different going from normal to full load. In my experience, the rears do not affect the ride quality so much as fronts do, so going from normal to full load pressure might not accept ride so much.
#36
Sorry to continue to beat this issue to death, but: I have long been intrigued by what people mean by a good ride. To me this means not having the body or interior parts rattling, the absence of thrashing, bashing impacts and such. For others it is the ability to ride on a rough road and not get any bouncing or up/down movements. I personally do not mind the car’s moving up and down as long as when it negotiates irregularities the impacts don’t shake anything loose or sound like that’s what is going on. I mention this because different personal definitions of “ride’ probably account for a lot of the difference in opinion reflected in the posts here. I had a 1967 VW Bug that probably gave a pretty jarring ride to some, but to me it was great because there was nothing to shake loose on the interior and always felt solid. “Solid” is probably what makes a “good ride” for me, so I am sure I perceive things a lot differently from those who want a long wheelbase, irregularity-minimizing stretch limo feel. I drove stretch limos for a few years in the 1990’s between “real jobs” and I know what that feels like. However, when the stretch hit a big bump and produced rattling window glass and sunroof noises I would think “it rides like a truck.” Different strokes,” they say.
#37
AudiWorld Member
I have a new 2023 A4 Quattro. I guess I have sport suspension. I can set it for Comfort, Auto, Dynamic, individual. Make sure you set tire pressure correctly. For my car 35F/ 32R is correct. The sticker in the door jam is for max load. What tires did car come with?
QUOTE=SkiingInABlueDream;25259650]I have a few suspension questions.
1. Sport suspension owners (regular Sport suspension, not the Adaptive): Would you describe, in any terms, your subjective impression of the car's ride quality, for everyday un-sporty point A-to-B driving.
2. Does anyone know, or know how I could find out:
a) What's the difference in spring rate between the A4 regular suspension and the Sport Pkg (not Sport+) suspension? I know Sport drops the car an inch, but Im curious specifically how much stiffer the springs are.
b) Do the non-sport and regular Sport (not S+) suspensions use the same or different shocks?
Here's why I'm asking, and my own answer to #1. I'm beginning to wonder if the sport suspension was a mistake for me. Here's how it feels to me: bouncy, fidgety, nervous. I would not describe it as harsh, jarring or punishing. The car does a fine job absorbing what I think would be sharp impacts in a truly stiff car. The car never feels like it's getting torn apart in bumps. (That said I believe I do a good job avoiding stuff too...) What frustrates me about the ride is, I feel pencil size cracks in the road; pointless, quarter-inch amplitude humps and dips; every tiny wave that's invisible unless the road is wet and reflecting light at just the right angle. It all gets transmitted right up through the seat. Even at parking lot speeds. And on the highway after a couple hours, it becomes an exhausting anti-symphony of low-amplitude jouncing in the seat. It's unnecessary feedback. (And ironically, the front of the car ie the steering system has zero feedback. Mixed personalities lol!) So yeah, Im wondering if I would have been happier with the non-cool non-sport-suspension car!
Some may recall I had started an earlier thread about vibration. The reason Im starting a new thread instead of bumping that one is, I currently suspect I don't have any vibration issue from within the car. The suspension may just be transmitting more than I care to feel. Lacking opportunity to do extended rides with knowledgeable passengers, I'm asking for ppl's impressions here to see if theirs match or contradict mine.
I'm getting a first oil change on Friday and will have a loaner for the day. Assuming it's an A4/5 with the non-sport suspension, I'll plan to some extra road time in that car for comparison.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=SkiingInABlueDream;25259650]I have a few suspension questions.
1. Sport suspension owners (regular Sport suspension, not the Adaptive): Would you describe, in any terms, your subjective impression of the car's ride quality, for everyday un-sporty point A-to-B driving.
2. Does anyone know, or know how I could find out:
a) What's the difference in spring rate between the A4 regular suspension and the Sport Pkg (not Sport+) suspension? I know Sport drops the car an inch, but Im curious specifically how much stiffer the springs are.
b) Do the non-sport and regular Sport (not S+) suspensions use the same or different shocks?
Here's why I'm asking, and my own answer to #1. I'm beginning to wonder if the sport suspension was a mistake for me. Here's how it feels to me: bouncy, fidgety, nervous. I would not describe it as harsh, jarring or punishing. The car does a fine job absorbing what I think would be sharp impacts in a truly stiff car. The car never feels like it's getting torn apart in bumps. (That said I believe I do a good job avoiding stuff too...) What frustrates me about the ride is, I feel pencil size cracks in the road; pointless, quarter-inch amplitude humps and dips; every tiny wave that's invisible unless the road is wet and reflecting light at just the right angle. It all gets transmitted right up through the seat. Even at parking lot speeds. And on the highway after a couple hours, it becomes an exhausting anti-symphony of low-amplitude jouncing in the seat. It's unnecessary feedback. (And ironically, the front of the car ie the steering system has zero feedback. Mixed personalities lol!) So yeah, Im wondering if I would have been happier with the non-cool non-sport-suspension car!
Some may recall I had started an earlier thread about vibration. The reason Im starting a new thread instead of bumping that one is, I currently suspect I don't have any vibration issue from within the car. The suspension may just be transmitting more than I care to feel. Lacking opportunity to do extended rides with knowledgeable passengers, I'm asking for ppl's impressions here to see if theirs match or contradict mine.
I'm getting a first oil change on Friday and will have a loaner for the day. Assuming it's an A4/5 with the non-sport suspension, I'll plan to some extra road time in that car for comparison.[/QUOTE]
#38
AudiWorld Senior Member
"Drive select" (that thing with comfort/auto/dynamic/individual) does not adjust the suspension unless you have the very optional and very rare adaptive suspension. (Technically I believe there are two adaptive suspension options offered around the world) If you go into individual, do you see an option for suspension? If not, then it means you don't have adaptive suspension...
#39
AudiWorld Super User
"I guess I have", there's no need to be guessing. Look at the vehicle identification sticker in your owner's manual. In the list of PR codes should be a 1B_ or 2M_ code, which specifies exactly which suspension you have.
#40
Fwiw, I have the 1BE sports suspension on my 2018 and the 1BA standard suspension on my 2017 - both A4 PP. The sports suspension is noticeably stiffer, though I wouldn't quite call it harsh - just "firm". It's enjoyable around town, but I do chose the '17 for highway trips - the perpetual bumps/cracks on northeast highways get old quickly.