What’s your predicted range when full?
#21
AudiWorld Senior Member
That is because in Audi's largest region certification testing is based on the fuel tank being filled to 90% capacity for the test cycle. A smaller tank means less fuel, which means less weight, which means better certification numbers. Some have been known to also heat the fuel for test cycles. They used to offer a larger tank as no cost or low cost upgrade. This is not unique to Audi. Ridiculous of course.
#22
AudiWorld Senior Member
Once, I let my tank run fairly low (by my standards) and filled it up in Collingwood with the non-ethanol 91 and I ... got the impression fuel economy was better. Very unscientific though, obviously.
#23
AudiWorld Super User
And speaking of tank sizes, the 252hp (EA888 Type 3) engine uses a 58 litre tank, whilst the 190hp (EA888 Type 3-B) uses a 54 litre tank. Everywhere except in the North American region apparently. Most amusing.
#24
AudiWorld Senior Member
So you would think, but they use a 40 litre tank with the 4 cylinder diesels - similar range
And speaking of tank sizes, the 252hp (EA888 Type 3) engine uses a 58 litre tank, whilst the 190hp (EA888 Type 3-B) uses a 54 litre tank. Everywhere except in the North American region apparently. Most amusing.
And speaking of tank sizes, the 252hp (EA888 Type 3) engine uses a 58 litre tank, whilst the 190hp (EA888 Type 3-B) uses a 54 litre tank. Everywhere except in the North American region apparently. Most amusing.
The thing is, I think 58L is on the small side by North American standards. The Infiniti Q50, for example, has a 76L... but they also abandoned the Mercedes-sourced turbo I4 they had for a while in favour of a 3.0L turbo V6 as their smallest engine option, and that engine is a lot thirstier than the 252HP A4 engine. The Lexus IS has 66L; Cadillac ATS has 60.5L; the Genesis G70 has 60.2...
#26
AudiWorld Super User
^^
As the efficiency of the engines improves, the tank becomes smaller. So you are correct, they are targeting a range.
When the first B8 A4 2.0 TFSI came out, it had a 65 litre tank, at the facelift down to 61 litres. B9 at 58.
The 3.0TDI diesel is the long distance car - 58 litre tank, range 1350km / 840 miles. Need to drive it on a flat highway with a constant throttle to get that though. But if predicted range is the criteria, that's the B9 winner,
As the efficiency of the engines improves, the tank becomes smaller. So you are correct, they are targeting a range.
When the first B8 A4 2.0 TFSI came out, it had a 65 litre tank, at the facelift down to 61 litres. B9 at 58.
The 3.0TDI diesel is the long distance car - 58 litre tank, range 1350km / 840 miles. Need to drive it on a flat highway with a constant throttle to get that though. But if predicted range is the criteria, that's the B9 winner,
#28
AudiWorld Senior Member
Range=515 miles 91 CA Fuel JB4 Map 6
2017 Season of Audi A4 Quattro
#29
AudiWorld Member
My 2017 A4 usually says 525 distance to empty. I use Shell and Sunoco 93. However it is calculated based on average mpg over the last tank so how and where you drive affects this. I think the range on this tank at highway miles is ok. I had a 2015 Passat TDI and I got several 900+ mile tanks out of its 18.5 gallon tank and I'm no where near that tough.
#30
AudiWorld Member
That math does not come close to working with either the short term or long term fuel mileage reported by the car. Even if you assumed the entire 15.3 gallon tank was usable in order to have a 525 mile range your "average mpg" would have to be 34.3 mpg. At my last fuel fill, my car shows long term fuel economy is 29.3 mpg and the range was 540 miles (35.3 mpg). I think the Audi calculated fuel range is artificially inflated to make the owners feel good and it has ZERO bearing on reality. My car consistently has the low fuel light come on around 350-360 miles and it then takes ~12 gallon to fill (360/12.0=29.2 mpg). The fuel range _should_ say something like 388 miles (29.2 * 15.3(fuel tank size)-2.0(reserve)) = 388 miles. Not 540 miles. Audi Engineers should be ashamed. Shame. Shame. Shame.