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Srivatsan 11-19-2015 08:19 PM

2016 Audi A6 MMI Aux Video Input
 
I recently ordered a 2016 Audi A6 p+. I have been following the forums for sometime now.

I understand that on the new 2016 Audi A6, the proprietary AMI connector has been replaced with standard USB ports.

I was wondering if there is any way to hook up an external video source through these USB ports (like for mirroring your smartphone).

I believe this was done using a special AMI cable with composite inputs on the older models.

Thanks,

snagitseven 11-20-2015 05:14 AM

Since the MY2016 has USB ports, you won't need an AMI cable (finally a thing of the past).You'il be able to skip the AMI cable and in it's place you would need an A/V to USB cable, something like one of these:



Otherwise, the other components shown would be needed:

https://www.audiworld.com/forums/aud...creen-2888656/

kj71109 11-20-2015 05:30 AM

I wish they would just make it so I could plug in my iPhone via the USB port and put video(mirror) on the MMI. If anyone has gotten this to work on a 2016, please share. :)

snagitseven 11-20-2015 05:35 AM

Not possible. The MMI does not support mirroring without the components in the link I provided. Video directly from the iPhone using the Apple native video app is doable but not native mirroring.

kj71109 11-20-2015 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by snagitseven (Post 24745223)
Not possible. The MMI does not support mirroring without the components in the link I provided. Video directly from the iPhone using the Apple native video app is doable but not native mirroring.

Am I missing something on this? I have not been able to get this to work via USB while parked.

snagitseven 11-20-2015 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by kj71109 (Post 24745226)
Am I missing something on this? I have not been able to get this to work via USB while parked.

Be sure your video resolution on the phone doesn't exceed the spec in the manual. I believe it's 720x576 maximum.

schalliol 01-12-2016 09:13 AM

Snagit, have you confirmed post-facelift cars can use this USB AV part and display video on screen? The item you linked would use the USB audio/video codec to pass digital video. You can't pass analog AV over a digital connection like USB.

ahyaman718 02-17-2016 11:06 AM

Why can't you just use a hdmi to usb rather then convert between digital and analog.

schalliol 02-17-2016 11:57 AM

The questions is, does the Audi input take in digital video over USB, and how does it do it? Haven't seen how it works in the '16s. USB is not a typical video interface. If the car does accept video streaming, I assume it happens to use a USB video codec (like USB Audio codec), but typically TVs play files on USB drives vs stream video.

ahyaman718 02-18-2016 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by schalliol (Post 24778005)
The questions is, does the Audi input take in digital video over USB, and how does it do it? Haven't seen how it works in the '16s. USB is not a typical video interface. If the car does accept video streaming, I assume it happens to use a USB video codec (like USB Audio codec), but typically TVs play files on USB drives vs stream video.

If the USB port supports video the way the AMI used to why couldn't you use one of these http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...ds=usb+to+hdmi

schalliol 02-18-2016 06:04 AM

Could be possible, but you're not connecting to a Windows or Mac computer. Audi has to support a system to support that, and I'm not saying they aren't. Someone with a 16 should get on the $35 24 hour pass for Audi Tech info (as I've done for my 14) and find out what's what.

scottfree 03-02-2017 05:12 PM

Ok, I tried it today, I bought a insignia usb3.0 to hdmi hooked up to a roku and it said it was not supported, Im going to try some different combinations tomorrow, Ill try usb 2.0 to hdmi if I can find it. Waiting on Apple lightning to HDMI.

scottfree 03-05-2017 11:36 AM

I tried the set up suggested and it did not work, it just says device not supported, I guess Ill just use a tablet.

Moonlightblue 07-02-2017 11:41 AM

Anyone with a 16' ever figure this out? I posted the following in the Audio/Video section but never got a reply:
Anyone come across a (US spec) digital TV tuner that would work for the 16' A6 or A7 (C7.5)? Preferably to plug into the USB-in input under the armrest? Or, would it be possible for me to plug my Apple TV into the USB input using an HDMI to USB cable, and stream Netflix or other apps from the Apple TV? The Apple TV could connect to the MMI's wifi hotspot connection..
Or, best of all worlds, as I have an unlimited data plan for my iPhone, would it be possible to stream Netflix or other video apps from iPhone to the MMI using some kind of cable or component plugged into the USB port? Thanks for any ideas that you know to work and if possible, links to required cables, components..

arrivalanche 01-25-2018 08:03 PM

I found this AUDI A6/S6 2016-2017 NAVIGATION VIDEO INTERFACE with BUILT-IN HD SMARTPHONE MIRRORING via HDMI which seems to integrate into the mmi rather than trying to go through the usb.

ravjeet 07-07-2018 10:30 PM

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hope this helps.
the new system still have ami port on the back side

schalliol 07-08-2018 08:33 PM

Interesting. It appears some even have an AMI port in the console. It also looks like its just a female USB AMI cable, so basically if you plugged in an AMI cable to the back, you could, but then youd lose the USB port. Do I read that right?

deezell 10-05-2018 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by schalliol (Post 25176960)
Interesting. It appears some even have an AMI port in the console. It also looks like it’s just a female USB AMI cable, so basically if you plugged in an AMI cable to the back, you could, but then you’d lose the USB port. Do I read that right?

From Mid 2015 build onwards Q7 and 2017 onwards A6 and A7 you can get this directly from Audi for €250 to enable carplay/mirroring
https://shops.audi.com/en_GB/web/zubehoer/p/retrofit-solution-for-the-audi-smartphone-interface-4m0051472-9?search_term=carplay%20retrofit&channel=904_ASOS
It's purely a software licence, no hardware. I believe you have to pay the Dealer to install it though.
I'm still trying to find a way to enable Google maps/ data in on my non SIM card facelift (2015) A6. The damn thing even has a WiFi AP for streaming audio in, but I cant find anyone who has enabled this AP as a wifi client to send data back into the MMI. (though this is a standard feature on the Audi TT, allowing you to tether off your phone). All the tutorials for data retrofit are for pre facelift A6 with the old AMI port.

Mine just has two USB ports in the tunnel tray, though one has an extra symbol like a phone on it which I take is a reference to AMI. Nothing in the owners guide about it, but it refers to both USB ports as Audi Music Interfaces. It won't take a data tether, it will play media files though. Movies also play without a problem from a standard USB stick, but it specifically states "not from an Apple or MTP device (e.g. smartphone)". Which got me thinking, Is it just streaming the file from the stick? I think it must as it played a movie on the stick almost instantly, it certainly didn't upload the entire file. In which case is it possible to develop a stick which satisfies the USB drivers in the car while at the same time having an active file stream, i.e., a live stream from a phone interface. That way you could watch video, maps, anything that appears on your phone. My cheap sat box can play movie files live or as they are being stored on a usb stick. I can even stream from the stick from another device before recording is finished, It's how Timeshift works. If there are any developer/engineers out there, a usb stick with a live stream input to fool the audi interface would be a hot seller. Something that would connect to your phone, create a file on compliant connected memory which also has a USB plug and feed it a stream of the actual phone screen. Instant mirroring. It could be wireless or blutooth even, once the bit that sticks into the Audi looks and behaves like a bog standard USB stick. My skills in this area are sadly dated, but perhaps some hardware whiz could enlighten us as to how to proceed with such a project.

schalliol 10-05-2018 06:58 PM

This thing is really interesting. I only have a '14, but I'm curious if anyone has tried this.

Sabaat Ahmad 04-09-2019 01:45 PM

Did anybody ever got it working?

deezell 04-15-2019 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by Sabaat Ahmad (Post 25301293)
Did anybody ever got it working?

All the blogs I'm listening to have been quiet on this, and on tethering data back into mmi from your phone or a 4g router. 2015 facelift on mmi is locked down, there are guts on a Russian site trying to access api to set parameters for reading in data from usb. The goal is to get online services, Google maps ect. Audi's goal is to sell you expensive Audi connect hardware and subscription.
I notice here an earlier post refering to the Ami port still on the back of the head unit, and I think you can plug a pre 2014 cable into this, and initialize it using OBDeleven, but I'm not going to bother. Life's too short. Fit a cheap android tablet to a magnetic holder and mount on the console. Take it with you when finished with the car.

ahyaman718 04-15-2019 02:50 AM


Originally Posted by deezell (Post 25303577)
All the blogs I'm listening to have been quiet on this, and on tethering data back into mmi from your phone or a 4g router. 2015 facelift on mmi is locked down, there are guts on a Russian site trying to access api to set parameters for reading in data from usb. The goal is to get online services, Google maps ect. Audi's goal is to sell you expensive Audi connect hardware and subscription.
I notice here an earlier post refering to the Ami port still on the back of the head unit, and I think you can plug a pre 2014 cable into this, and initialize it using OBDeleven, but I'm not going to bother. Life's too short. Fit a cheap android tablet to a magnetic holder and mount on the console. Take it with you when finished with the car.

That's a cheesy solution, when there's a perfectly good screen already there. I looked at the images of the back of the unit and I didn't see the pre-facelift AMI port in any of them.

deezell 04-15-2019 08:04 AM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.aud...7d9f40b1dc.jpg
From my previous A6 C6. Video, Internet, Audio via Aux, Maps, OBD via ELM327, even Images of Cheese.


Originally Posted by ahyaman718 (Post 25303582)
That's a cheesy solution, when there's a perfectly good screen already there. I looked at the images of the back of the unit and I didn't see the pre-facelift AMI port in any of them.


DanfZX14 04-15-2019 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by deezell (Post 25303721)
even Images of Cheese.

:D


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