Sway bars & shocks for non sport
#1
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Sway bars & shocks for non sport
I'm posting this in the A6 forum just because there is more traffic here. I'm trying to decide between two 2016 A7s. Both are Prestige models and both have factory 20" wheel packages. But one does not have the sport package. I have a 2015 now with the sport package and I really noticed the difference in steering response and slop in quick maneuvers without it. But it's a tough call on which color I kike better between the cars.
So my question is, does anyone have experience with replacing the shocks and sway bars? I have no interest in lowering the car, but I see that Bilstein Sport shocks are available. How easy are the shocks to replace? How about sway bars?
Thanks
So my question is, does anyone have experience with replacing the shocks and sway bars? I have no interest in lowering the car, but I see that Bilstein Sport shocks are available. How easy are the shocks to replace? How about sway bars?
Thanks
#2
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My take on this is it's important to match the suspension components. Addidng firmer shocks without changing the suspension could degrade the car's balance as the engineers designed for the car.
My experience with other cars is a larger ARB in the rear can help with body roll but won't do a whole lot for turn in crispness. A larger ARB in the front is usually not recommended due to possibly creating an oversteer condition.
If it was me (it isn't), I'd definitely lean towards the car with the sport package, especially since you have enjoyed it in your current Audi.
My experience with other cars is a larger ARB in the rear can help with body roll but won't do a whole lot for turn in crispness. A larger ARB in the front is usually not recommended due to possibly creating an oversteer condition.
If it was me (it isn't), I'd definitely lean towards the car with the sport package, especially since you have enjoyed it in your current Audi.
#3
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My take on this is it's important to match the suspension components. Addidng firmer shocks without changing the suspension could degrade the car's balance as the engineers designed for the car.
My experience with other cars is a larger ARB in the rear can help with body roll but won't do a whole lot for turn in crispness. A larger ARB in the front is usually not recommended due to possibly creating an oversteer condition.
If it was me (it isn't), I'd definitely lean towards the car with the sport package, especially since you have enjoyed it in your current Audi.
My experience with other cars is a larger ARB in the rear can help with body roll but won't do a whole lot for turn in crispness. A larger ARB in the front is usually not recommended due to possibly creating an oversteer condition.
If it was me (it isn't), I'd definitely lean towards the car with the sport package, especially since you have enjoyed it in your current Audi.
I've seen your posts for quite a while and I do respect your opinion. But I don't thing tweaking the shocks is going to have any negative effects, and my experience backs that up. I've actually upgraded only shocks on several vehicles over the years.
#4
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I understand your positive experience with the Corvette. I was only saying that Audi engineers spend gobs of time and resources tuning the suspension of our cars and I think any mods done halfway could hamper that to some degree. I guess I'm just very pleased with the end overall result of the sport package with 19" wheels as designed and do not feel the need to mess with it. (I don't track my car).
If you go with the non-Sport and all you're trying to do is reduce body roll, perhaps a thicker rear ARB would be all you need. (I added the OEM sport rear ARB to my non-sport '01 A6 back when and it helped with roll quite a bit). I guess you could upgrade the shocks afterward if that didn't give you the desired result.
If you go with the non-Sport and all you're trying to do is reduce body roll, perhaps a thicker rear ARB would be all you need. (I added the OEM sport rear ARB to my non-sport '01 A6 back when and it helped with roll quite a bit). I guess you could upgrade the shocks afterward if that didn't give you the desired result.
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Question: are you getting a second A7 or trading the 2015 in? If trading, why so soon? If keeping the 2015, are you just going to use one on even days and the other on odd days?
#7
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Good choice. I have a feeling you wouldn't have been as happy with the non-sport having already had one with it.
Question: are you getting a second A7 or trading the 2015 in? If trading, why so soon? If keeping the 2015, are you just going to use one on even days and the other on odd days?
Question: are you getting a second A7 or trading the 2015 in? If trading, why so soon? If keeping the 2015, are you just going to use one on even days and the other on odd days?
I went back to my Audi dealership who's body shop did the work to discuss how to handle the claim. Then I went in and asked the sales manger if two claims reported to CarFax would effect resale. He said that they now report whether the damage is minor, which mine definitely is.
So I asked how much he would give me to trade it in on an S6. They offered me more than I expected and a good deal on a 2016 A7. What happened to the S6 you ask? I drove one and would have liked it, but decided that for what I use it for the S6 was not worth another $10,000.
Bottom line is I got a deal that actually made sense given the circumstances, and I got a year newer car with some improvements. I've owned many, many vehicles. I've made some stupid deals over the years that made no sense, and I've made some great deals. This wasn't the best I've ever done, but it was right up there. The resale was far better than I expected for a ten month old car with 8,500 miles on it.
The suspension issue was that it would be easier to fix the handling than to change a color I didn't like. But it all worked out. Here,is the new car...
Last edited by jjsC6; 08-29-2015 at 06:27 PM.
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#8
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Good to hear you got a deal worked out that you could live with. Usually it's the first two years where depreciation whacks you the hardest.
And IMO, there's nothing wrong with a silver color, especially as it doesn't show the dirt two blocks from your house after you wash it. I actually prefer the silvers and medium grays for that reason. Also, while it may not be the most exclusive color, it's also less likely to stand out in a crowd when exceeding the speed limit.
And IMO, there's nothing wrong with a silver color, especially as it doesn't show the dirt two blocks from your house after you wash it. I actually prefer the silvers and medium grays for that reason. Also, while it may not be the most exclusive color, it's also less likely to stand out in a crowd when exceeding the speed limit.
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Good to hear you got a deal worked out that you could live with. Usually it's the first two years where depreciation whacks you the hardest.
And IMO, there's nothing wrong with a silver color, especially as it doesn't show the dirt two blocks from your house after you wash it. I actually prefer the silvers and medium grays for that reason. Also, while it may not be the most exclusive color, it's also less likely to stand out in a crowd when exceeding the speed limit.
And IMO, there's nothing wrong with a silver color, especially as it doesn't show the dirt two blocks from your house after you wash it. I actually prefer the silvers and medium grays for that reason. Also, while it may not be the most exclusive color, it's also less likely to stand out in a crowd when exceeding the speed limit.
So I took my wife up to look at this color last night. She still preferred the Glacier White, but was okay with this silver and I actually liked it the more I looked at it.