2005 A6 4.2 Cylinder 1, 2, 3 misfires
#31
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Update:
So yesterday I ended up changing the Cam Position Sensors for both banks. After some research, I found information that points that's the Camshaft Valve actuators cannot be removed unless the the engine/timing case is removed from the car. Can anyone confirm this?
After installing both new Cam Position Sensors, I cleared all DTC's via vagcom, started the car... it ran smooth for a few seconds then started rough idling again. I then scanned the car again via vagcom and this time I had codes for random misfire, Cylinder 1 and 3.
Anymore ideas?
So yesterday I ended up changing the Cam Position Sensors for both banks. After some research, I found information that points that's the Camshaft Valve actuators cannot be removed unless the the engine/timing case is removed from the car. Can anyone confirm this?
After installing both new Cam Position Sensors, I cleared all DTC's via vagcom, started the car... it ran smooth for a few seconds then started rough idling again. I then scanned the car again via vagcom and this time I had codes for random misfire, Cylinder 1 and 3.
Anymore ideas?
Last edited by Nightlifephantom; 11-07-2017 at 09:09 PM.
#32
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Update:
So I noticed my coolant was disappearing little by little. I topped of coolant with G13... level seems fine after a few days... weird.
As for the Actuators... all manufactures I spoke to said that it's built onto the timing tensioner and there no way to just replace just the actuator on the 4.2? Can someone verify that for me?
Also it appears that more cylinders are now misfiring.
So far updated symptoms are;
- Very rough idling at idle that's smooths away at driving but still I can see the rev needle jumping/twitching
- Car takes a while to warm up on the temp gauge
- When first starting car looks like there USB more smoke coming out of left exhaust pipe than the right exhaust pipe
- Less performance
- Very poor gas mileage
Last edited by Nightlifephantom; 11-14-2017 at 04:00 PM.
#33
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After my last post, I ended up taking the car to Audi for diagnosis. After weeks of them having my car... I was told today that the timing is off. Audi wants to charge a whopping $4,997 to retime the car.
Anyone have a DIY on fixing the timing?
I'm located in upstate NY and would also consider having someone do the work for me for a lot less if possible.
Thanks guys.
2005 Audi A6 4.2 Quattro
Anyone have a DIY on fixing the timing?
I'm located in upstate NY and would also consider having someone do the work for me for a lot less if possible.
Thanks guys.
2005 Audi A6 4.2 Quattro
#34
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Ok, so after speaking to the service manager some more... I was told the timing was off by half a tooth. At this point I'm highly doubting the timing chain/timing is causing this issue.
Anyone know if Timing be half a tooth off would cause these misfires?
#35
I recall in my old C5 I had timing off my a full tooth and didn't get a CEL...the car sounded bad and didn't run great, but I think that's a red herring.
#36
Were you able to confirm it was the timing causing your issue?
#37
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The Audi Tech at the dealership stated that the passenger side lower cam timing is off and that the cam locking insert tool would not go in the holes because of that. My car is still at the dealer still waiting for a definite answer but at this time they still think it's the timing off by half a tooth.I'm still highly disagreeing with their opinion due to the fact that I had codes for the rear o2 sensor right when this problem started and I replaced both rear o2 sensors and havnt had a code back yet for them. I'm thinking it's a leaky fuel injector, front o2 sensors or possible fuel pump issue.
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The Audi Tech at the dealership stated that the passenger side lower cam timing is off and that the cam locking insert tool would not go in the holes because of that. My car is still at the dealer still waiting for a definite answer but at this time they still think it's the timing off by half a tooth.I'm still highly disagreeing with their opinion due to the fact that I had codes for the rear o2 sensor right when this problem started and I replaced both rear o2 sensors and havn't had a code back yet for them. I'm thinking it's a leaky fuel injector, front o2 sensors or possible fuel pump issue.
This is what I get:
P0056 - O2 Sensor Heater Contr. Circ.(Bank2 Sensor 2) -
DTC Status: Sporadic
P1672 - Fan 1 Control circuit Open circuit /short circuit to ground
DTC Status: (blank)
P1900 - Fan 2 control circuit Open circuit/Short to ground
DTC Status: (blank)
P0300 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
DTC Status: (blank)
P0301 - Cyl. 1 Misfire Detected
DTC Status: (blank)
P0303 - Cyl. 3 Misfire Detected
DTC Status: (blank)
Since then I have replaced the following:
put in a new battery from pep boys
All spark plugs with Iridium NGK (the person before me had 4 different plugs installed)
All new coils packs
on one side (to test for Cylinder 7) i replaced the coil pack harness because all four would not hold their connections to the coils
Changed the oil and filter
put in fuel injector cleaner (although i have not ran it long enough for it to even do much.
It runs a little better but still has a rough idle. Never dulling out.
#39
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Dude, I am hoping its the latter for you. I have been searching all over this forum for a more definitive answer to yours and and many others as mine is doing something very similar. That is weird they think it is the timing and yet have gotten back to you on the confirmation. Especially that you got more promising codes.
This is what I get:
P0056 - O2 Sensor Heater Contr. Circ.(Bank2 Sensor 2) -
DTC Status: Sporadic
P1672 - Fan 1 Control circuit Open circuit /short circuit to ground
DTC Status: (blank)
P1900 - Fan 2 control circuit Open circuit/Short to ground
DTC Status: (blank)
P0300 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
DTC Status: (blank)
P0301 - Cyl. 1 Misfire Detected
DTC Status: (blank)
P0303 - Cyl. 3 Misfire Detected
DTC Status: (blank)
Since then I have replaced the following:
put in a new battery from pep boys
All spark plugs with Iridium NGK (the person before me had 4 different plugs installed)
All new coils packs
on one side (to test for Cylinder 7) i replaced the coil pack harness because all four would not hold their connections to the coils
Changed the oil and filter
put in fuel injector cleaner (although i have not ran it long enough for it to even do much.
It runs a little better but still has a rough idle. Never dulling out.
This is what I get:
P0056 - O2 Sensor Heater Contr. Circ.(Bank2 Sensor 2) -
DTC Status: Sporadic
P1672 - Fan 1 Control circuit Open circuit /short circuit to ground
DTC Status: (blank)
P1900 - Fan 2 control circuit Open circuit/Short to ground
DTC Status: (blank)
P0300 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
DTC Status: (blank)
P0301 - Cyl. 1 Misfire Detected
DTC Status: (blank)
P0303 - Cyl. 3 Misfire Detected
DTC Status: (blank)
Since then I have replaced the following:
put in a new battery from pep boys
All spark plugs with Iridium NGK (the person before me had 4 different plugs installed)
All new coils packs
on one side (to test for Cylinder 7) i replaced the coil pack harness because all four would not hold their connections to the coils
Changed the oil and filter
put in fuel injector cleaner (although i have not ran it long enough for it to even do much.
It runs a little better but still has a rough idle. Never dulling out.
Did you check your fuses?
#40