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Trans, diff and transfer case fluid change
#51
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Thread Starter
Sorry about that. It is a hex plug on the transfer case. I remember it being on the passenger side. The transfer case is right behind the transmission. IIRC it's not super easy to get out the first time. I recall getting an allen wrench in it and either putting a cheater pipe on it or hitting it with a hammer to break it loose. I was looking for a picture but couldn't find one.
#52
AudiWorld Senior Member
#55
Is it logical to just do the transmission oil changes and transfer case oil changes every 50K miles? I mean, doesn't gear oil for differentials last > 200,000 miles?
Also, let's get real. Audi's transfer case cannot be that strange compared to the transfer case oil they sell at advanced auto parts for $16:
Can I just use it?
Here's the diagram of the transfer case:
Uhhh, where is this, exactly? Underside but rear of the transmission?
Given that there is only one plug, is it correct that you need a curved tube to remove the oil and putting it back in will be on the messy side of jobs?
EDIT: Upon searching for the model number of my transmission I discovered https://aftermarket.zf.com/remotemed...9a-catalog.pdf which has some helpful pictures and information:
transmission filter
transfer case
differential front. (no image of the rear)
ZF sells the fluids, gaskets, complete overhaul kits, etc. Note that they list two fluids (not one) for some components/situations.
Also, let's get real. Audi's transfer case cannot be that strange compared to the transfer case oil they sell at advanced auto parts for $16:
Can I just use it?
Here's the diagram of the transfer case:
Uhhh, where is this, exactly? Underside but rear of the transmission?
Given that there is only one plug, is it correct that you need a curved tube to remove the oil and putting it back in will be on the messy side of jobs?
EDIT: Upon searching for the model number of my transmission I discovered https://aftermarket.zf.com/remotemed...9a-catalog.pdf which has some helpful pictures and information:
transmission filter
transfer case
differential front. (no image of the rear)
ZF sells the fluids, gaskets, complete overhaul kits, etc. Note that they list two fluids (not one) for some components/situations.
Last edited by jasontaylor7; 07-22-2023 at 08:37 AM.
#56
Is it logical to just do the transmission oil changes and transfer case oil changes every 50K miles? I mean, doesn't gear oil for differentials last > 200,000 miles?
Also, let's get real. Audi's transfer case cannot be that strange compared to the transfer case oil they sell at advanced auto parts for $16:
Can I just use it?
Here's the diagram of the transfer case:
Uhhh, where is this, exactly? Underside but rear of the transmission?
Given that there is only one plug, is it correct that you need a curved tube to remove the oil and putting it back in will be on the messy side of jobs?
EDIT: Upon searching for the model number of my transmission I discovered https://aftermarket.zf.com/remotemed...9a-catalog.pdf which has some helpful pictures and information:
transmission filter
transfer case
differential front. (no image of the rear)
ZF sells the fluids, gaskets, complete overhaul kits, etc. Note that they list two fluids (not one) for some components/situations.
Also, let's get real. Audi's transfer case cannot be that strange compared to the transfer case oil they sell at advanced auto parts for $16:
Can I just use it?
Here's the diagram of the transfer case:
Uhhh, where is this, exactly? Underside but rear of the transmission?
Given that there is only one plug, is it correct that you need a curved tube to remove the oil and putting it back in will be on the messy side of jobs?
EDIT: Upon searching for the model number of my transmission I discovered https://aftermarket.zf.com/remotemed...9a-catalog.pdf which has some helpful pictures and information:
transmission filter
transfer case
differential front. (no image of the rear)
ZF sells the fluids, gaskets, complete overhaul kits, etc. Note that they list two fluids (not one) for some components/situations.
Driver side, transmission end low, above transmission crossmember.
Fill plug, passenger side, driveshaft end high, above teansmission crossmember.
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jasontaylor7 (08-22-2023)
#57
Amazing how many different transmissions out there. My front diff oil was fine and I regret changing it. The xfer case oil was a little dirty. I decided to not to even do the rear diff given how clean the front diff oil was. I replaced all the o-rings on those fill nuts though. You can purchase a used diff if one of them goes bad on the cheap. The xfer case however I am not sure if that's a whole tranny swap or not. I was going to post my own walkthrough but just don't bother is an easier solution.
#58
Amazing how many different transmissions out there. My front diff oil was fine and I regret changing it. The xfer case oil was a little dirty. I decided to not to even do the rear diff given how clean the front diff oil was. I replaced all the o-rings on those fill nuts though. You can purchase a used diff if one of them goes bad on the cheap. The xfer case however I am not sure if that's a whole tranny swap or not. I was going to post my own walkthrough but just don't bother is an easier solution.
Drain plug is right above. You may be able to get a very low profile hex bit on it with mount attached about 1 to 1 1/4 inch of clearance.
#59
"Drain plug is right above. You may be able to get a very low profile hex bit on it with mount attached about 1 to 1 1/4 inch of clearan"
I tried so many dumb andidiotic ideas ranging from a pair of closed 5/16" wrenches (just one couldn't handle the torque) over the 8mm hex to dremelling down the bit height to the bare minimum and getting what's called a wrench extender, a very handy $10 tool you of course cannot purchase in any brick and mortar store. Not helping was the lack of any affordable 1/2" 8mm stubby hex bits. So, I needed to use a 3/8" drive and connect it to the wrench extender. All under the car. Perfect job for owning a lift. This job was a bit of a wake up call to me as it should have been quick. Obviously if I had to do it again it would take 10% of the time, but massive lesson learned about being prepared. Especially the need of a strong electric pump. I tried a few cheap pumps, like a $2 fish tank pump for air. No go. Very nice pictures there.
But which oils were actually dirty on your car?
I tried so many dumb andidiotic ideas ranging from a pair of closed 5/16" wrenches (just one couldn't handle the torque) over the 8mm hex to dremelling down the bit height to the bare minimum and getting what's called a wrench extender, a very handy $10 tool you of course cannot purchase in any brick and mortar store. Not helping was the lack of any affordable 1/2" 8mm stubby hex bits. So, I needed to use a 3/8" drive and connect it to the wrench extender. All under the car. Perfect job for owning a lift. This job was a bit of a wake up call to me as it should have been quick. Obviously if I had to do it again it would take 10% of the time, but massive lesson learned about being prepared. Especially the need of a strong electric pump. I tried a few cheap pumps, like a $2 fish tank pump for air. No go. Very nice pictures there.
But which oils were actually dirty on your car?
#60
"Drain plug is right above. You may be able to get a very low profile hex bit on it with mount attached about 1 to 1 1/4 inch of clearan"
I tried so many dumb andidiotic ideas ranging from a pair of closed 5/16" wrenches (just one couldn't handle the torque) over the 8mm hex to dremelling down the bit height to the bare minimum and getting what's called a wrench extender, a very handy $10 tool you of course cannot purchase in any brick and mortar store. Not helping was the lack of any affordable 1/2" 8mm stubby hex bits. So, I needed to use a 3/8" drive and connect it to the wrench extender. All under the car. Perfect job for owning a lift. This job was a bit of a wake up call to me as it should have been quick. Obviously if I had to do it again it would take 10% of the time, but massive lesson learned about being prepared. Especially the need of a strong electric pump. I tried a few cheap pumps, like a $2 fish tank pump for air. No go. Very nice pictures there.
But which oils were actually dirty on your car?
I tried so many dumb andidiotic ideas ranging from a pair of closed 5/16" wrenches (just one couldn't handle the torque) over the 8mm hex to dremelling down the bit height to the bare minimum and getting what's called a wrench extender, a very handy $10 tool you of course cannot purchase in any brick and mortar store. Not helping was the lack of any affordable 1/2" 8mm stubby hex bits. So, I needed to use a 3/8" drive and connect it to the wrench extender. All under the car. Perfect job for owning a lift. This job was a bit of a wake up call to me as it should have been quick. Obviously if I had to do it again it would take 10% of the time, but massive lesson learned about being prepared. Especially the need of a strong electric pump. I tried a few cheap pumps, like a $2 fish tank pump for air. No go. Very nice pictures there.
But which oils were actually dirty on your car?
From front differential.
Seem on bottom of differential it was leaking through, origonally thought it was over filled and was coming out the breather hole.
You do need to remove the rear crossmember this sits on so that you can lower and slide it back. The exhaust on this car is goofy, 2 pairs of catalytic coverters, 1 pair of resonators, 1 pair of mid mufflers?, 1 pair of mufflers, 2 pairs of flex pipe. Originally thought it had vacuum actuated valves in the rear like the rs4 does as it sounds different in sport mode, but i beleive it has them high up on the down pipes somewhere by the manifold to bypass one sets of cats and into the others.
You can easily remove the passenger side exhuast piece, on drivers side with a bunch of pivot extentions you can just loosen the flange bolts as they are alot higher up on the down pipes for whatever reason. I could remove the crossmember but i have no need, it is far enough back that i have full access to the drain plug.