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01-06-2011, 06:21 AM
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01-06-2011, 07:00 AM
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According to ZF, the internals of these transmission are very sensitive to the proper ATF and the Audi specified fluid MUST be used. If not it WILL result in damage to the transmission. If this shop did not use the proper fluid then I think they should be responsible for the repair.
In addition, it is not possible to do a simple transmission fluid change and get out all of the old fluid. About 1/2 will remain in the Torque Converter. A fluid flush can change all 10 liters but that means 10 liters of the expensive fluid + a new filter and the risk that the flushing will dislodge junk in the tranny and cause more problems.
I went through a similar problem with a Honda and got the shop to pay for the repair costs at the dealer. It took a long time to settle but I eventually got the money.
In addition, it is not possible to do a simple transmission fluid change and get out all of the old fluid. About 1/2 will remain in the Torque Converter. A fluid flush can change all 10 liters but that means 10 liters of the expensive fluid + a new filter and the risk that the flushing will dislodge junk in the tranny and cause more problems.
I went through a similar problem with a Honda and got the shop to pay for the repair costs at the dealer. It took a long time to settle but I eventually got the money.
01-06-2011, 10:52 AM
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According to ZF, the internals of these transmission are very sensitive to the proper ATF and the Audi specified fluid MUST be used. If not it WILL result in damage to the transmission. If this shop did not use the proper fluid then I think they should be responsible for the repair.
In addition, it is not possible to do a simple transmission fluid change and get out all of the old fluid. About 1/2 will remain in the Torque Converter. A fluid flush can change all 10 liters but that means 10 liters of the expensive fluid + a new filter and the risk that the flushing will dislodge junk in the tranny and cause more problems.
I went through a similar problem with a Honda and got the shop to pay for the repair costs at the dealer. It took a long time to settle but I eventually got the money.
In addition, it is not possible to do a simple transmission fluid change and get out all of the old fluid. About 1/2 will remain in the Torque Converter. A fluid flush can change all 10 liters but that means 10 liters of the expensive fluid + a new filter and the risk that the flushing will dislodge junk in the tranny and cause more problems.
I went through a similar problem with a Honda and got the shop to pay for the repair costs at the dealer. It took a long time to settle but I eventually got the money.
Here's hoping that they just change the transmission fluid to the correct stuff and nothing bad happens...
01-08-2011, 12:44 PM
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Just had my fluid changed. Cost a fortune. Has to be the exact fluid for the chassis number. Not even on the shelf at Audi dealer ha to be specially ordered for my car. Guy who did it is striaght as a die and would not try to rip me off. Had to use the exact oil which Audi charge £27per litre!
01-08-2011, 10:52 PM
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Hi there
take a look at this 3 links , maybe will help you
http://www.ehow.com/how_5000414_chan...i-quattro.html
https://www.audiworld.com/tech/
http://www.blauparts.com/audi/audi_f...on_fluid.shtml
good luck
take a look at this 3 links , maybe will help you
http://www.ehow.com/how_5000414_chan...i-quattro.html
https://www.audiworld.com/tech/
http://www.blauparts.com/audi/audi_f...on_fluid.shtml
good luck
01-10-2011, 07:34 AM
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"Proper and correct" Audi service is only as good as it's service manager and he works for the dealer.... so I trusted only the transmission manufacturer with the critical info for my ZF. Get your transmission number and call ZF but I'm fairly sure you'll be Lifeguard 6 or 6plus, LG is hard to find and spendy so Turkeybaster115's research (message above) is very helpful:
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01-16-2011, 05:36 AM
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Things sure got quiet in this thread when you showed the actual ZF Lifeguard trans bottle, ya must have scared him. 
It's still worth it imo.
It's still worth it imo."Proper and correct" Audi service is only as good as it's service manager and he works for the dealer.... so I trusted only the transmission manufacturer with the critical info for my ZF. Get your transmission number and call ZF but I'm fairly sure you'll be Lifeguard 6 or 6plus, LG is hard to find and spendy so Turkeybaster115's research (message above) is very helpful:
01-17-2011, 05:43 AM
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LOL.
I wasn't able to make it into the dealer last Thursday, so I'm re-scheduled for the 27th.
The transmission isn't acting the same now. Before there was a definate issue shifting between 4th and 5th, now that seems a bit smoother, but the whole thing is just 'harsh' (compairatively to the way it was). I'm really hoping that when i go to the dealer they don't give me the "welp, seems fine to me, move along please."
I'm sure someone who is used to the A6 and how it shifts could tell the difference, but it's not like a loud bang, or a completely noticable thing. Now the transmission just shifts a little harder than it used to and seems to be over eager to shift to a lower gear at the first hint of a hill or pedal fluctuation.
Maybe it's just time I find my self an S6....
I wasn't able to make it into the dealer last Thursday, so I'm re-scheduled for the 27th.
The transmission isn't acting the same now. Before there was a definate issue shifting between 4th and 5th, now that seems a bit smoother, but the whole thing is just 'harsh' (compairatively to the way it was). I'm really hoping that when i go to the dealer they don't give me the "welp, seems fine to me, move along please."
I'm sure someone who is used to the A6 and how it shifts could tell the difference, but it's not like a loud bang, or a completely noticable thing. Now the transmission just shifts a little harder than it used to and seems to be over eager to shift to a lower gear at the first hint of a hill or pedal fluctuation.
Maybe it's just time I find my self an S6....
01-18-2011, 05:22 AM
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S6=same transmission.
Your transmission should be ok if they used the proper fluid and did the correct procedure required to change it..even if they didn't, if you haven't put many miles on it with the wrong fluid you should be ok once it's corrected. When mine was changed they also did a ZF mandatory software update which might be the problem if they used the correct fluid? Check your TSB's
BTW..you can contact ZF USA at:
http://www.zf.com/corporate/en/compa...orthville.html
Your transmission should be ok if they used the proper fluid and did the correct procedure required to change it..even if they didn't, if you haven't put many miles on it with the wrong fluid you should be ok once it's corrected. When mine was changed they also did a ZF mandatory software update which might be the problem if they used the correct fluid? Check your TSB's
BTW..you can contact ZF USA at:
http://www.zf.com/corporate/en/compa...orthville.html
01-18-2011, 06:59 AM
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It imperative if you want long reliable TM life, the C6 was built for long life. really there's no excuse for a certified Audi dealer/shop not to know the correct
procedure with this transmission unless the SM is an idiot..and they exist. Your better off driving 200 miles and paying for a hotel if that's what it takes to get correct service. Any self-respecting Audi/Bimmer/Merc Indy shop will do a proper change.
btw,see if you have an AudiClub nearby, a very good bunch to know and fun!
http://www.audiclubna.org/
procedure with this transmission unless the SM is an idiot..and they exist.
Your better off driving 200 miles and paying for a hotel if that's what it takes to get correct service. Any self-respecting Audi/Bimmer/Merc Indy shop will do a proper change. btw,see if you have an AudiClub nearby, a very good bunch to know and fun!
http://www.audiclubna.org/
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