Prospeeder

You dont reoil your k&N filter after cleaning? Im sorry, but thats the stupidest thing you can do. The only thing catching the debris is the oil attracting the dirt, the dry cotton is not going to catch a thing. Sorry you feel ok letting dirt sandblast away valve seats and wear cylinder walls, but im not. My turbo comparison was to show an extreme case of how extra particles can really cause damage, as turbos spin 150,000+ rpms, you can imagine small amount of dirt will do extreme wear. And as for not having a D2, i can post advice weather i own one or not, i work on them for a living. You have one as a hobby, you must be the biggest expert on the planet.....

Oh and for the record, iv seen cars come in with NO air filter, ran like that for years, and have had not extreme effects that you can tell. So.....that means you dont need an air filter right??? By your logic anyway.

And over cleaning the filter, is the worst thing you can do, its wearing out and ruining the cotton fibers, making it less likely to catch dirt, and really they work better the dirtier they get, you should get 20-30k before you clean it. Not every oil change, thats just obsessive....get a new one, oil it, and leave it the hell alone lol, you obsess over cleaning an air filter that the manufacture says not to, but recommend not to change lifetime trans fluid. That makes sense....

silverd2

First: I don't recall describing how I clean my filters. My method has gotten me through 100's of K's of trouble-free miles...no failed or even soiled MAF's...NEVER burned oil on any German car, even well over 200K miles...NEVER any compression loss...NEVER a failed cat and I'd bet my house that the cylinder walls in my present daily driver (at 130K miles) shine like a mirror.

Keeping an air filter as clean as possible is a bad thing..."obsessive" !!??

For your "professional" (so what) information, I remove the filter, knock out and vacuum out large debris on the sucking side, then blow out the rest from the other side with mild compressed air...as often as I have time...never "washed" the original oil out solvent, which does NOT blow back onto the MAF...what a load of unproven crap! ...and save your totally predictable next comment >> Yes, oil does come off with the removed debri, but enough remains and the plenty tight enough cotton mesh remains (just like the overly restrictive un-oiled paper mesh in an OEM filter). Again, the microscopic dust that gets through (just like paper filters) is not big enough to do any damage to anything...it passes through and/or burned...proven in the real world, by millions of satisfied customers and clean high mileage motors.

NOT cleaning a K&N makes them "work better"?! It makes them more restricted...WORSE than a paper filter. THAT is the stupidest piece of advice I've ever heard...even from a "hobbyist", which I am NOT. A person who does 100% of all their own maintenance and repairs on every car they've ever owned (with proven results), in order to maintain necessary transportation, is NOT a hobbyist...they are a mechanic, paid or not. I realized very early on, that I was more qualified to do this than "professionals".

Doing something for a living does NOT make one an expert or even good at what they do. Professional = "one who gets paid to perform a service", period...so does a crack *****.
True interest (not just $$), understanding how things work, intelligent observation, retained education, caring about the outcome and a natural feel for things, makes a good mechanic.

Do you really think you've stated anything I haven't heard, probaly since before you were old enough to work? Judging by your posts (including quotes from "car care for idiots") and lame advice, you'd be the last person on earth I'd take advice from.

As you may recall, I did not offer ANYONE advice about K&N filters...did not even recommend them to ANYONE. I simply stated my own beliefs developed through long-term real world proven observations...not a tiny 1 or 2 hour window and "facts" read out of an ITT Tech manual.

Yes, you can post anything advice you like on a public forum. And Paris Hilton can suggest design changes to NASA.

"i work on them for a living"...blah, blah, blah << Famous last words from "mechanics" at Audi dealerships & "Euro car specialists" everywhere. Ask the general membership here how that's worked out for them in the past.

pocketchange

Pride in owning an Audi says it all. S8s are a kick (even though mine is the pedestrian A8).

If you lack records on your new purchase, I concur with establishing a baseline.
All the better if you take interest and DIY (just do it).

Stick with Audi recommended fluids PLEASE.

Sans the K&N filter issue everything mentioned after the OP is the flight path you should follow.
(I have no opinion on which filter you decide to use nor do I care)

This forum is an excellent resource & Best Wishes with your new TOY!!

pc

Prospeeder

lol Alright dude, have your little obsessive fun i suppose, and blowing compressed air through a K&N does destroy the cotton fibers, its a FACT, K&N says it themselves, they say themselves they work better dity, they say themselves the amount of flow barley changes when their dirty. Oh wait your the expert, not the manufacture of the filter, you are, because thats what you say. {insert eye roll here} Your "opinion" on K&N filters SUCKS, and is misinformed and contradicts everything the manufacture says. Oh but you did it so its all good, everyone should do it to.

Oh sorry, your not a mechanic, your a diy guy at home, on your own car. You dont work on every different euro make, model, and engines, and a wide variety of situations multipul times all day every day. Your nothing close to a mechanic. You have no outside experience but your own cars, your view on how things perform or affect things has the most narrow window there is. You see your own car. Big deal, when you have worked on dozens and dozens of them for variety of issues, owners, environments, you see different things and get different pictures. You obviously have your one car picture, my car wasnt affected, so no ones must be.

And my "advice" you seem to not like has genuinely helped alot of people, my inbox is full of thank you thank you thank you your the best. Ohhhh you just keep telling people to ignore their transmission till it dies and then convince them they have to buy a 4000$ rebuilt one, thats wonderful advice..... your such an expert

S8ilver

You're = You are
Your = Belongs to you
They're = They are
Their = Belongs to them
There = Not here

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That was my attempt to make light of the situation. But seriously guys, maybe it just comes down to preference. I've run a K&N in my last 6 cars (2 Broncos, 3 BMWs, and the current Audi) and never had an issue. My current '96 Bronco is at 178k miles and has had a K&N for the majority. My motor is spotless and MAF sensor is still the original functioning unit. Does this prove that K&N could never cause a failure? No, but it doesn't disprove anything either.

Use what you feel comfortable using. I'll stick with K&N as not one has let me down yet. This thread started as a request for advice. I just said what I'd do. I never said "you must use a K&N air filter."

silverd2

Finally...I humbly accept your admission of defeat. That was big of you, Skippy...you're a good boy.

Now you can get back to rotating tires down at the WalMart...big tips if you keep washing windshields at no extra charge.

silverd2

Prospeeder

Aww how mature of you, douche, maybe you should go back to pushing papers or whatever worthless job you do. I didn't accept anything, I think its you who accepted defeat with a pathetic stab....Maybe you should stop spewing your garbage ideas and theory's like its some gospel, its called your tiny frame of reference on your whole 2 cars you own and work on. Let us real mechanics do the work, you can stare at your Bentley manual and call yourself a real mechanic cause you change your spark plugs.

I wasn't aware this was grammar and spelling class either....Regardless i'm done with this petty argument, you can continue wearing out your car all you want, i can drain some dirty old black lifetime atf out of some audis to ship to you if you want, just in case you need a top off as a gesture of good will...teehee...

silverd2

Oh, how cute...little Skippy's mad. Bless his pointed little head and his bib that says "I'm a Weel Mikanik".

And it only took him an hour to find someone to correct his spelling....mommy was busy.
Understandable, though...spelling wasn't required with the 45 minute tire-boy training seminar at WalMart (or was it JiffyLube?).

Prospeeder

Tisk tisk, show your true colors dont you
2 year associate degree in Automotive technology, several years working on European cars every day. Hmmm....more than your driveway