Actually the post wasn't very clear on one technical point.
 

It was very clear in regards to the person to person interactions with the dealership, etc. Thats a whole other thing... If you know what I mean.

If someone says stuff like "I just got my brand new car right off the dock and I got in and turned every gadget on and this one doesn't work. Its a lemon!" Obviously its a reactionary post and most of the replies will be just as reactionary. Its like crying "help I'm drowning!" while standing in two feet of water.

If the car in question (BuyBeach's A8L) is dangerous then its a serious problem. IMO, if the headlights stay on and drain the battery so the owner is left stranded or if they go off at night on their own then its a SERIOUS problem. Thats dangerous.

Here's the technical bit that is missing.. Its very important to really determine how serious this problem is..

What I want to know is if the headlights have these problems if left in manual mode. If the problems are isolated to engagement of the automatic system then it can and should be fixed without making a public fuss. I think its reasonable to leave the car in manual mode until the problem is worked out by Audi. Audi should do everthing possible to inconvenience the owner as little as possible.

Take the car to any place other than Prestige, 'nuff said.

Re: Greenie, me thinks you hope you get another one!
 

"Me thinks you hope to get another one?" Lets not turn this into a Yahoo post but if you start I will finish! Buybeach has had issues if quality control with his car as well as poor PR from AoA, including his dealer. Manufacturing and marketing vehicles or anything with this type of liability attached to it is never easy. How a manufacturer relates to his present and prospective customers either keeps him selling units or puts him behind the eight ball such as with Mercedes Benz and their "command" fiasco. I always try to see it from both angles even when it happened to me. Acura was terrific and when they didnt have an answer they said so. Audi seems to give different answers to the same question on a number of occasions. My posts always work within reason because surely losing ones temper gets one nowhere fast. As Ive said, I believe that this car was released for sale too soon without parts being in the U.S for support. I can honestly laugh at your subject line because I know you are smart enough to be able to define PRO BONO!!




greenie

Re: C'mon, both sides cool it!
 

If I can shed some light on my experiences and help someone, I will continue to do that. Isnt that the spirit of this forum?


greenie

Re: A buy back because the auto feature on the headlights doesn't work??? You're kidding right?
 

Buybeach , in a former post, mentioned a host of malfunctions to which I responeded, not merely headlight issues.



greenie

Re: Relax greenie, b/4 everyone with a software bug wants blood!
 

No, Audi , IMHO, should have spent more time pre-release on this car. Mercedes admits, or at least they admitted it to me, that they test their cars on the public and if one is a little adventurous they SHOULD buy the E-class(told to me by a MB mechanid at the dealership). This is why I cancelled and switched to Audi. Personally, I still believe that I have made a good decision even after all of these posts. Time will tell. But do not forget, these posts are merely the opinions of the posters sometimes via their own experiences. Thats all.


greenie

Re: Greenie, me thinks you hope you get another one!
 

Bro Bono? No, I think you just like a good fight!
Actually, I admire your abilities and respect your awesome experiences with lemons.

Re: More on Defective 2004 Audi A8 L(emon)
 

<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/59716/audi_lemon.jpg"></center><p>Look for my defective 2004 AudiA8 L(emon) with these fine magnetic signs I have on the way.

Will post actual photo of my "Black Lemon" as soon as the signs arrive...of course, assuming the car does not have a relapse and quit completely.

Re: Does it act funny with the lights in manual mode?
 

<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/59716/audi_lemon.jpg"></center><p>Don't know. This has happened three times now in the 400 or so miles I (rather than the servicing dealr) have managed to put on it in 7 weeks.

As this particular issue (defect) occurs intermittently, it is hard to isolate any specific circumstance that triggers it.

Re: Buyback is your L(emon) really that bad?
 

<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/59716/audi_lemon.jpg"></center><p>Who knows? According to dealer service technician, various "things" interact with other "things" which use a common electronic bus to communicate. Great idea! (Not).