S8 Standard equipment
02-19-2002, 02:31 PM
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S8 Standard equipment
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I'm in the market for a Audi S8, I'm currently looking at a 1997 model with 75.000 km on the clock. But I'm wondering when there where model shifts in the S8 range. What about standard equipment ? Would a 1997 model have things like double layer heated front windshield, park tronic, Sat nav with build in TV and what about tire pressure control ?
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Soren Udsen Nielsen
I'm in the market for a Audi S8, I'm currently looking at a 1997 model with 75.000 km on the clock. But I'm wondering when there where model shifts in the S8 range. What about standard equipment ? Would a 1997 model have things like double layer heated front windshield, park tronic, Sat nav with build in TV and what about tire pressure control ?
Best regards
Soren Udsen Nielsen
02-20-2002, 12:24 AM
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Re: S8 Standard equipment
'97 model S8 is only available with 6-speed manual transmission, tiptronic option came on model year '98. Still an option, but seems like 80% or more has tiptronic.
Double layer windows was standard on all 4,2's from 1994, but heated front shield has always been an option.
Park distance control has always been an option too, and it was available in '97, but probably just rear. Sat nav with TV came as an option in model year '99, previous sat nav was the small system without monitor. TV reciever is basically an option on big sat nav too. Both versions of sat nav available as option from '99, never standard.
But all this will vary depending on market, each importer decides what equipment is standard for their market, and which options and packages that are offered. In general, the German market has little standard and all options available. So equipment on german cars realy vary a lot.
Tire pressure control is very new, I would guess '00 or '01.
The most important shift was from model year '99, when the car got a face lift. Some "major" changes, different front, doorhandles, added chrome trim, centre console and suspension changes. Brembo brakes and 40V engine boosted from 340 to 360 Hp. That should be the major stuff.
You can configure your own S8 at the german site on http://www.audi.de . That way you will see what the basic equipment is on the new S8 (for all markets), and what options that are avaialble.
Where the options list stops, Quattro Gmbh starts. :-)
Double layer windows was standard on all 4,2's from 1994, but heated front shield has always been an option.
Park distance control has always been an option too, and it was available in '97, but probably just rear. Sat nav with TV came as an option in model year '99, previous sat nav was the small system without monitor. TV reciever is basically an option on big sat nav too. Both versions of sat nav available as option from '99, never standard.
But all this will vary depending on market, each importer decides what equipment is standard for their market, and which options and packages that are offered. In general, the German market has little standard and all options available. So equipment on german cars realy vary a lot.
Tire pressure control is very new, I would guess '00 or '01.
The most important shift was from model year '99, when the car got a face lift. Some "major" changes, different front, doorhandles, added chrome trim, centre console and suspension changes. Brembo brakes and 40V engine boosted from 340 to 360 Hp. That should be the major stuff.
You can configure your own S8 at the german site on http://www.audi.de . That way you will see what the basic equipment is on the new S8 (for all markets), and what options that are avaialble.
Where the options list stops, Quattro Gmbh starts. :-)
02-21-2002, 01:15 PM
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Re: S8 Standard equipment
Tak Kjell !
Well thanx for a really good answer, the car I'm looking do have the sat nav, but it's a the cars from 12/1997, and is stated as having automatic gears. So I guess it might be a early 1998 model.
The only stuff which ain't mentioned is the heated front winshield and the park distance control. But well then that's really not a problem for me either :-). Unless you guys say that this barge is completely imposssible to park due to no rear view ???? But then it comes with build in engine heater !
Another question, all S8's was equiped with the quattro system right ?
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Well thanx for a really good answer, the car I'm looking do have the sat nav, but it's a the cars from 12/1997, and is stated as having automatic gears. So I guess it might be a early 1998 model.
The only stuff which ain't mentioned is the heated front winshield and the park distance control. But well then that's really not a problem for me either :-). Unless you guys say that this barge is completely imposssible to park due to no rear view ???? But then it comes with build in engine heater !
Another question, all S8's was equiped with the quattro system right ?
Best regards
Søren Udsen Nielsen
02-21-2002, 02:35 PM
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Re: S8 Standard equipment
Hi Søren,
Guess you are in or from Denmark, right? So am I at the moment! Sitting in my hotel room in Copenhagen just now, returned from a nice round around the beautiful city. :-)
Yes, all 4,2's has always had quattro as standard.
The 12/97 is definately a '98 year model, the model years typically start from september the year before.
The parktronic or whatever it is called is a very nice feature for such a large car, it is difficult to see what's behind. But using some caution and having automatically dipping mirror helps. When you remember to have the switch in the right position that is.... (Yes, I had to repaint my rear bumper last year....)
The engine heater I guess is the "Standheizung" option? Which is a remotely controlled Webasto engine and compartment heater running on gasoline, with timer function. An *extremely* nice feature, and very expensive as well. Costs close to $2000 as a factory option. Worth every penny in cold climate areas.
Good luck with the purchase, please update with progress or any questions.
Guess you are in or from Denmark, right? So am I at the moment! Sitting in my hotel room in Copenhagen just now, returned from a nice round around the beautiful city. :-)
Yes, all 4,2's has always had quattro as standard.
The 12/97 is definately a '98 year model, the model years typically start from september the year before.
The parktronic or whatever it is called is a very nice feature for such a large car, it is difficult to see what's behind. But using some caution and having automatically dipping mirror helps. When you remember to have the switch in the right position that is.... (Yes, I had to repaint my rear bumper last year....)
The engine heater I guess is the "Standheizung" option? Which is a remotely controlled Webasto engine and compartment heater running on gasoline, with timer function. An *extremely* nice feature, and very expensive as well. Costs close to $2000 as a factory option. Worth every penny in cold climate areas.
Good luck with the purchase, please update with progress or any questions.
02-22-2002, 09:27 AM
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Hi Kjell
Thanks again for all the great answers, yeah you are right that I'm a Dane, but living in Luxembourg though. Else I would never have had the posibility to look for such a car. There you are a bit more lucky in Norway !
A bit sad that the one I'm looking at now, don't have the park tronic. But what the hell, I rarely do rear or parallel parkings anyway.
According to the net the car is standard delivered with the Avus style wheels, and tires in size 245/45. This is not a very low profile, can this be upgraded and what is recomended ? I did this on my current car, went from 17" to 18", but there are specific guidelines for what width and profile of tires to be used, else the speed pilot will begin to give problems ! On my current car I have 265/40 on the rear, when it sits on summer tires.
The "standheizung" are also very rare in Germany where I'm looking for a car. And with such a thing installed engine wear from cold starts should be absolutely minimal, if it has been used.
But before I can go in and buy the car I need to be sure that I can get rid of my current car a Mercedes E500 AMG.
Best regards
Søren Udsen Nielsen
Thanks again for all the great answers, yeah you are right that I'm a Dane, but living in Luxembourg though. Else I would never have had the posibility to look for such a car. There you are a bit more lucky in Norway !
A bit sad that the one I'm looking at now, don't have the park tronic. But what the hell, I rarely do rear or parallel parkings anyway.
According to the net the car is standard delivered with the Avus style wheels, and tires in size 245/45. This is not a very low profile, can this be upgraded and what is recomended ? I did this on my current car, went from 17" to 18", but there are specific guidelines for what width and profile of tires to be used, else the speed pilot will begin to give problems ! On my current car I have 265/40 on the rear, when it sits on summer tires.
The "standheizung" are also very rare in Germany where I'm looking for a car. And with such a thing installed engine wear from cold starts should be absolutely minimal, if it has been used.
But before I can go in and buy the car I need to be sure that I can get rid of my current car a Mercedes E500 AMG.
Best regards
Søren Udsen Nielsen
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S8 wheels & tires ...
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The photo is the 255/35-20 Bridgestone S-03 on an HRE 20x9 ET39 wheel. Winter here was mild and is hopefully about finished, the roads are still reasonably pothole free, so I'll be putting these back on my S8 in two weeks.
The link is to an earlier post on possible tire sizes for the A8/S8.
In the U.S., the Dunlop SP8000 was the standard tire on the S8 when it was first available here in '01.<ul><li><a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/a8/msgs/7091.phtml">A8/S8 tire options</a></li></ul>
The photo is the 255/35-20 Bridgestone S-03 on an HRE 20x9 ET39 wheel. Winter here was mild and is hopefully about finished, the roads are still reasonably pothole free, so I'll be putting these back on my S8 in two weeks.
The link is to an earlier post on possible tire sizes for the A8/S8.
In the U.S., the Dunlop SP8000 was the standard tire on the S8 when it was first available here in '01.<ul><li><a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/a8/msgs/7091.phtml">A8/S8 tire options</a></li></ul>
02-23-2002, 02:32 AM
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Re: S8 wheels & tires ...
Hi,
Thanks for the link to some great info regarding tire sizes.
Just one addtional question, as far as I can see is the S8/A8 running on same size wheels front and rear is this correct ? The previous performance cars I've had, have always had larger tires in the rear.
Thanks for the link to some great info regarding tire sizes.
Just one addtional question, as far as I can see is the S8/A8 running on same size wheels front and rear is this correct ? The previous performance cars I've had, have always had larger tires in the rear.
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With Quattro AWD ...
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the front and rear tires need to have VERY close to the same outside diameter to avoid confusing the Torsen center differential.
It is possible to run a wider rear tire, but it should only be done for cosmetics. [See the photos of the "A8000" in the "Now this is an A8" post 10 threads up. The sizes of it's tires are shown in the table.] ... but IMHO, it's a bad idea with an A8 Quattro. The A8/S8 already suffers from moderate understeer, and a wider rear tire will only make this worse. Performance cars with wider rear tires are also rear wheel drive only. The wider rear tire is needed to handle the combined cornering and engine torque forces.
One caveat regarding sizes of tires in the table wider than 255 -- wheel offset and/or spacers need to be carefully calculated to avoid fender rubbing problems, and I doubt that a 275 could be mounted on the front without rolling the fenders. Also, especially if you add aftermarket brakes, you have to be careful that wheel spokes clear the caliper.
the front and rear tires need to have VERY close to the same outside diameter to avoid confusing the Torsen center differential.
It is possible to run a wider rear tire, but it should only be done for cosmetics. [See the photos of the "A8000" in the "Now this is an A8" post 10 threads up. The sizes of it's tires are shown in the table.] ... but IMHO, it's a bad idea with an A8 Quattro. The A8/S8 already suffers from moderate understeer, and a wider rear tire will only make this worse. Performance cars with wider rear tires are also rear wheel drive only. The wider rear tire is needed to handle the combined cornering and engine torque forces.
One caveat regarding sizes of tires in the table wider than 255 -- wheel offset and/or spacers need to be carefully calculated to avoid fender rubbing problems, and I doubt that a 275 could be mounted on the front without rolling the fenders. Also, especially if you add aftermarket brakes, you have to be careful that wheel spokes clear the caliper.