707chris

Could you post that diagram for fuse #5? Thank you

haggisuk

Yeah but why?

Craig283

Hi thanks for everything so far
http://uberlame.com/a6_tsb/Stereo/Ra...%20degrees.pdf
I have 3,4,5,6, of those symptoms but unfortunately have bypassed the tuner with fibre link and removed from can installation run an optical bus diagnosis with ignition on tuner is removed no breaks but the problem still occurs.
Also sometimes when the clock on the dash has reset to 00.00 2003 the mmi system in settings will be showing a different date and time to the dash.

MP4.2+6.0

Was thinking about this a little more, and offer one more suggestion. The clicking behind the dash you first mentioned combined w/ the issues you are having suggests maybe the control head/main box for the MMI. That is indeed behind the dash. On a LHD one it is behind the glove box basically. Same on a RHD (if N.Z.) as a guess if mirror imaged. Could tie to clock too. BUT, unless you did some work there, water leaked there/down from plenum area, or you did MMI software update and it didn't go as planned, seems low probability to just go out. Not really known for that as an issue, except when one gets created by type of factors I mention. All speculative, but the part that takes the physical abuse is the MMI controller panel which of course ties right to it. In particular, if you had even one single spill of coffee, a soft drink, etc., it could be toast. Lots of failures for that over the years. Net, fielder's choice, but maybe pull the plugs on one or the other and then see. Your first scan does show an intermittent error in the control head (module 7). My experience is that one does really ever show an error; the Nav one of course does with the disk, the radio may occasionally, etc. You didn't have an error in the second scan though.

Craig283

Hi just thought I would start at the beginning brought car in January our summer, had a small 70 amp hr battery in the boot and about once a week car would reset date and time and all trip computers reset inside lights and turn rear heater on car always started battery meter would go down to 60%.
In April I brought an excide din 88 from a dealer "as it was coming up our winter and did not want to have any problems re starting" and they had a Euro spec code battery, when I picked my car up after fitting it turned out that my original small battery was still there so took it back and had battery changed.
It was then that clock started reseting every time key was out took it to another euro spec said the battery was incorrect and he could not work on the car until the vw one was in place so I brought the varta and for the first 7 days everything was fine door leds would be flashing every morning, on day 8 battery for the 1st time in 6 months was flat 5.7 volts, since then the car will go flat if you donot leave a charger on it all the time.
I recoded the new battery as the code was incorrect from vw dealer and it seems to of stayed in this time have just run another scan partically cold last night -4 ice on car and forgot to plug charger in car started just.
There are different errors today,


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Data version: 20150729
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VIN: WAUZZZ4E94N014220 License Plate:
Mileage: 118650km-73725mi Repair Order:


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Chassis Type: 4E (4E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 15 16 17 19 1E 25 28 34 36 38 42 46
47 4F 52 53 55 56 57 61 62 72 76
VIN: WAUZZZ4E94N014220 Mileage: 118650km-73725miles
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 077-910-560-BFM.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 560 Q HW: 4E0 907 560
Component: 4.2L V8/5V G 0030
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUX3Z0CN227012
Coding: 0011773
Shop #: WSC 05050 824 86492
VCID: 2F6D4197BE08D246FF-807A
1 Fault Found:
17981 - Left Engine Mount Solenoid Valve (N144)
P1573 - 004 - Open Circuit
Readiness: 0010 1001
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09E-927-156.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 156 E HW: 09E 927 156 A
Component: AG6 09E 4,2L5V RdW 0110
Revision: 00000001 Serial number: 0023450
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2447BEBBE7CE611E12-8070
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4E0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 517 A HW: 4E0 614 517 A
Component: ESP 5.7 allrad H29 0420
Coding: 0008597
Shop #: WSC 37539 000 00000
VCID: 2149B7AFF8DC743679-8074
No fault code found.
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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 131 HW: 4E0 909 131 L
Component: FBS AUDID3 H10 0190
Revision: 01904910 Serial number: AUX3Z0CN227012
Coding: 0411648
Shop #: WSC 63861 741 64146
VCID: 58BFDA4BEB06F5FE4E-800C
Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX
1 Fault Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 57
Mileage: 118640 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.06.18
Time: 00:00:18

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C HW: 4E0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory BFS H07 0060
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
Coding: 4063328
Shop #: WSC 02353 785 00200
VCID: 2345BDA7E2C066266B-8076
No fault code found.
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Address 07: Control Head Labels: 4E0-910-7xx-07.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 729 D HW: 4E0 035 729 A
Component: Interfacebox H43 0210
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 347KR037501176
Coding: 0000108
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2959AF8F80ECBC7621-807C
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 609 C
Component: Bedienteil MMI H42 0100
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 321LH047504034
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 7420.01.0500000000221B0121ÿ
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 1B0121ÿ
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 043 HW: 4E0 820 043 A
Component: KLIMAAUTOMAT 016 0240
Revision: 00000022 Serial number: 00000000029566
Coding: 1135185
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 5ABBC043950AE7EE78-800E
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4E0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 279 G HW: 4E0 907 279 G
Component: ILM Fahrer H12 0170
Coding: 0123001
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 2C57569B8F1EA95EDA-8078
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E2 910 113 B
Component: Wischer WWS D3 H30 0370
Coding: 00000035
Shop #: WSC 02311
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557 Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH07 0020
Coding: 00150573
Shop #: WSC 02311
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4E0-910-655-84.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 655 HW: 4E0 959 655 G
Component: Airbag 8.4E+ H10 0940
Coding: 0430707
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 63C5FDA7A24026262B-8036
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4E0-910-549.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 549 HW: 4E0 953 549
Component: Lenksäulenmodul H12 0040
Coding: 0112141
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 65C1E3BFAC745816C5-8030
Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: Lenkradmodul H03 0070
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4E0-910-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 900 HW: 4E0 920 900 E
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H44 0080
Revision: D13 Serial number: AUDID3CN020289
Coding: 0000923
Shop #: WSC 05030 824 90822
VCID: 5CB7C65B9F3E19DE6A-8008
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4E0-910-468.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 468 HW: 4E0 907 468 A
Component: Gateway H07 0070
Revision: 07 Serial number: 14003039152310
Coding: FCFE7FDC2B0504
Shop #: WSC 05030 824 90822
VCID: 65C1E3BFAC745816C5-8030
No fault code found.
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Address 1E: Media Player 2 Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 111 C HW: 4E0 035 111
Component: CD-Changer H43 0330
Revision: 00000501 Serial number: AUZ5ZBC1024745
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 19399F4FD08C2CF6B1-804C
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 131 HW: 4E0 909 131 L
Component: FBS AUDID3 H10 0190
Revision: 01904910 Serial number: AUX3Z0CN227012
Coding: 0411648
Shop #: WSC 63861 741 64146
VCID: 58BFDA4BEB06F5FE4E-800C
Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX
XXXXXXXXXXX ELV XXXX
2 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 97
Mileage: 118640 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.06.18
Time: 00:00:18
00180 - Access/Start Authorization Antenna; Passenger Side (R135)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 57
Mileage: 118640 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.06.18
Time: 00:02:42

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Address 28: HVAC, Rear Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 158 HW: 4E0 919 158 A
Component: KLIMA-STG. FOND 015 0210
Revision: 00000014 Serial number: 00000000012645
Coding: 0000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 61C9F7AFB85C343639-8034
No fault code found.
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Address 34: Level Control Labels: 4E0-910-553.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 553 E HW: 4E0 907 553 E
Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC H05 4290
Coding: 0015510
Shop #: WSC 63861 741 64146
VCID: 2541A3BFECF4981605-8070
No fault code found.
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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C HW: 4E0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory FS H07 0060
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
Coding: 4063338
Shop #: WSC 02353 785 00200
VCID: 2345BDA7E2C066266B-8076
No fault code found.
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Address 38: Roof Electronics Labels: 4E0-910-135.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 135 A HW: 4E0 907 135 A
Component: Dachknoten D3 H01 0090
Serial number: 00000328900228
Coding: 0035984
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 1D318B5FC4A450D65D-8048
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 4E1-910-802-42.lbl
Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 HW: 4E2 959 802
Component: Türsteuer.FS BRM005 0110
Coding: 0028462
Shop #: WSC 61810 981 12516
VCID: 5EB3CC5389220BCE04-800A
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4E0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 289 A HW: 4E0 907 289
Component: Komfortgeraet H03 0030
Revision: 00300003 Serial number: W040310290076
Coding: 0004808
Shop #: WSC 83800 210 01865
VCID: 275DA9B796F88A0637-8072
No fault code found.
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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 4E0-910-223.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 223 H HW: 4E0 035 223 B
Component: DSP-High D3/AUX H13 0280
Revision: Dev_D01 Serial number: 00000000567893
Coding: 0000017
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 224BB8A3FDDA6F2E60-8076
No fault code found.
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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 280 A HW: 4E0 907 280 A
Component: ILM Beifahrer H08 0020
Revision: Serial number: 00000000026658
Coding: 0010101
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 1E338C53C9A24BCE44-804A
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 4E1-910-802-52.lbl
Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 HW: 4E2 959 801
Component: Türsteuer.BF BRM005 0110
Coding: 0028462
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 5EB3CC5389220BCE04-800A
No fault code found.
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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4E0-910-801.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 910 801 D HW: 4E0 907 801 B
Component: EPB A4EC0230 H03 0230
Revision: --H03---
Coding: 0000533
Shop #: WSC 00999 444 64523
VCID: 204FB2ABF3D67D3E76-8074
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 4E0-910-357.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 357 HW: 4E0 907 357
Component: Pre-AFS H01 0040
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000004
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 62CBF8A3BD5A2F2E20-8036
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 A HW: 4E0 035 541 A
Component: TUNER Japan H41 0110
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 325JL037501562
Coding: 0000003
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 1E338C53C9A24BCE44-804A
No fault code found.
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Address 57: TV Tuner Labels: 4E0-910-146.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 910 146 C HW: 4E0 919 146
Component: TV analog TUNER H12 0210
Revision: 00000084 Serial number: 00000000003456
Coding: 0001016
Shop #: WSC 02353 785 00200
VCID: 2149B7AFF8DC743679-8074
No fault code found.
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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4E0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 181 A HW: 4E0 915 181
Component: ENERGIEMANAGER H02 0230
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000005111827
Shop #: WSC 37539 001 104857
VCID: 1E338C53C9A24BCE44-804A
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 000 915 105 DL
Component: von VA0 341126Q0YD
Coding: 303030393135313035444C56413033343131323651305944
Shop #: WSC 37539 001 104857
4 Faults Found:
02273 - Quiescent Current Stage 2
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 118650 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.06.18
Time: 00:01:17
02276 - Quiescent Current Stage 5
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 118650 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.06.18
Time: 00:00:26
02274 - Quiescent Current Stage 3
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 118650 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.06.18
Time: 00:00:43
02277 - Quiescent Current Stage 6
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 118650 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.06.18
Time: 00:00:53

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 HW: 4E0 959 801 A
Component: Türsteuer.HL BRM005 0110
Coding: 0028462
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 5DB1CB5F842410D61D-8008
No fault code found.
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 HW: 4E0 959 802 A
Component: Türsteuer.HR BRM005 0110
Coding: 0028462
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 5DB1CB5F842410D61D-8008
No fault code found.
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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4E0-910-283.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 283 A HW: 4E0 919 283 B
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H11 0010
Revision: --.--.-- Serial number: 00000331000220
Coding: 0001008
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2149B7AFF8DC743679-8074
No fault code found.
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:51)--------------------------

Craig283

Further to the above I find it interesting that there were no control head or can malfunctions in the last 24 hours with no charger on and the above scan is quite similar to 2 scans over 24 hours in May also while not on charge, sometimes when you connect the charger mmi date time will show year 2098 2043 etc but dash is on original date 2003 could the charger be causing errors in interface and the actual drain is something different tanks in advance.

MP4.2+6.0

Wait, WHERE exactly are you connecting the charger? If you are doing it straight to the battery on both terminals, right away that will not be good. You put the positive directly on the terminal, but the negative goes on that big hex/bolt shaped metal post that sticks out above the battery. If you do both sides to the battery, you are bypassing the whole battery power management system and it has no idea what charge you have.

BTW, then in turn if car has no idea what the charge is, who knows what is turning on, gets stuck on, etc. Audi D3 electronics hate flaky batteries and low charge, but indirectly if charger not attached in way I describe, it will probably be similarly flaky.

On your new scans, FWIW, basically you have the typical low battery/lights left on type codes and not much more--all the lower voltage limit exceeded the "quiesscent" ones, etc. They tell you very little, other than, well duh I have a low voltage problem. For many that means a dying battery or lights or something left on a long time; in your case though it is fresh.

Also, be sure while you are at it the little tiny single wire is also attached to the positive terminal and hasn't been broken. Also important for the power management system.

Can't offer help on clock, other than so far I would put it in the symptom category, not the direct problem. Low voltage (or battery disconnect) loses the time of day; loss of date/calendar on mine is rare, even w/ battery disconnect IIRC.

Report back on how you are connecting charger.

Craig283

Hi yes charger is being connected onto hex bolt and the the tiny wire is connected to battery does not look to be stretched or damaged to where it goes into loom


Also while car is connected to charger the mmi battery meter does not seem to know as the gauge will drop even though battery is charging or fully charged and when car is started it goes back up again and yes clock is resetting straight away within a minute of turning the car off no matter what battery charge is showing.


BTW my car is RHD and clicking noise in dash I should of mentioned is instrument cluster side vw had dash out checking loose wires etc and other mechanic had interface disconnected with optic ring in place and batt still discharged.


Have spent the last few months reading all forums re a8 batt discharge and my symptoms don't seem to be like a lot of the others passenger door antenna r135 comes up occasionally could this be restarting the system reason I ask is the first time batt went completely flat I had washed the car the day before but not used it next morning with new batt that had been fine for 7 days no charger led door locks still flashing was flat 5.7 volts and this was the first time in 6 months the car had a flat battery thanks in advance.

MP4.2+6.0

Got it. So you are charging correctly and the other items seem in order around battery.

Agreed on passenger door antenna. It was about the only thing that showed up in newest scan that seemed like it might prevent car from going to sleep.

Craig283

Is there any way to turn off disconnect for testing before replacement, also with the fuses inside the doors I wanted to check them with a dmm which be a long process to see if any have power going through them for the minute or so car is in sleep mode with the boot you close the lock with the doors closing the catch does nothing and there are no buttons on the pillar to hold down how do I get the car to believe the doors are shut if I pull the 7.5 amp no 39 fuse out the lights go out in the doors but interior lights do not and I can see with vag that doors are open which will prevent it from sleeping I assume.