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Old 11-07-2018, 12:13 PM
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I came from S4's and Allroads. Wanting a chance sold all the allroads and I picked up the A8L a little over a week ago. I got some good help on the ABS issue I had. Figured I would put everything into 1 thread for the restoration of it. 137K on it. Timing was done in 14' at 114K.

So far I have done the following:
  1. Fixed the ABS wiring mess, and adjusted PIN#16, the connection between harness and ABS module for pin 16 was loose, which caused the sporadic G45 front sensor error (spread too far apart and not making good contact). Still not fixed. Sending ABS module out for repair.
  2. Nav system operational! Replaced the Navigation Unit, replaced shark fin antenna, 2016 disk installed.
Problems still:
  1. Installed a Satellite Radio (sirius) from another 2005 parts car (Power, optical and antennas all connected). It shows up when pressing the FM/AM button with the radio ID. Set up Sirus trial account and they have attempted to active it but it doe snot work. Am I missing parts or coding? Full VCDS log below. Appears issue with Satellite radio unit.
  2. CAN-BUS issue: After fixing my ABS issue I now have a incorrect Coding for CAN-Bus. This was not there before. I did have to recode the ABS module. What could this be? Caused by adding the sirius unit.
  3. Drivers seat massage does not work. Could this be related to the Component Protection on that?.
  4. Find alarm horn issue
Things To do still (no specific order)
  1. Learn differences between 2.7t and 4.2 engine for maintenance!
  2. Rebuild compressor with bagpipingandy's kit.
  3. Find squeak and clunk in the front suspension (control arms possibly)
  4. Oil change
  5. Install heated / Paddle shifter steering wheel. (ordered non heated wheel).
  6. Update from 1070 MMI to latest 4610
  7. Install AMI unit Update AMI unit.
  8. Replace passenger seat (Hole in bottom Amaretto leather)
  9. Install roof rack
  10. Replace 2nd Key-fob. I have the cut key, but the board is damaged. Can I upgrade to a newer style remote? Will a used remote program or does it have to be NEW never programmed?
  11. Leave in Cold on jack mode overnight to watch for leaks.
  12. Replace Drivers valve cover gasket
  13. Find small oil leak at front of engine (may be part of VCG)
  14. Tint
Full VCDS from last night after ABS repair:
Tuesday,06,November,2018,21:26:28:16173
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
Ross-Tech: Home


VIN: WAUML44E55N0XXXXX License Plate:


Chassis Type: 4E (4E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 0E 0F 15 16 17 19 25 34 36 37 38 42
46 47 4F 52 53 55 56 61 62 65 67 72 77

VIN: WAUML44E55N016482 Mileage: 221040km-137347miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Not registered 0011
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: Malfunction 0010
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 4E0-910-593-SIR.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 593 B HW: 4E0 035 593
Component: SDAR
Revision: 0000000 Serial number: AUZ4Z7E20
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 26484F6E91D8207A8F-8072

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 186
Mileage: 221042 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2004.03.25
Time: 21:11:05


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 4E0-910-468.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 910 468 B HW: 4E0 907 468 E
Component: Gateway H10 0080
Revision: 10 Serial number: 19003052280125
Coding: 7CFE7BDD1B7104
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2756426A96D23972B4-8072

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 186
Mileage: 221042 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2004.03.25
Time: 21:20:56


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 D HW: 4E0 959 760 B
Component: Sitzmemory FS H02 0010
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
Coding: 4071522
Shop #: WSC 20205 444 53401
VCID: 244C5566E7E4D26A91-8070

2 Faults Found:
02084 - Component Protection
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 186
Mileage: 70868 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.11.03
Time: 09:19:09

02095 - Component Protection Active
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 186
Mileage: 70868 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.11.03
Time: 11:56:36


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 4E0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 289 A HW: 4E0 907 289
Component: Komfortgeraet H04 0040
Revision: 00400004 Serial number: W040503220072
Coding: 0064542
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2756426A96D23972B4-8072

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 907 719
Component: Neigungssensor H03 0020

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 186
Mileage: 203905 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.12.06
Time: 14:17:48


End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:21)--------------------------

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Old 11-07-2018, 12:33 PM
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Re: Problems still

1: Sirius - ask them to reset it a few more times. It took them a few tries. If that doesn't work, I'm not sure. Is there component protection on these? I'd imagine it wouldn't even show up at all in the MMI with the serial # for activation if it were. Keep trying? (Call them on the phone, don't use the automated one on the web)

3: Does VCDS need to be programmed to tell it that it has a massager? Check on that. I'm not sure, I don't have the ooh-la-la massaging capability, *just* heating and cooling!


Re: Things to do:

1. Diffs: General maint. schedule: Check my Audi resources 'Maintenance Schedules' section for the maint. info on your D3.
3. Squeak: Probably definitely possibly (heh) the control arms. As they say in Game of Thrones, "It is known" (issue)

6. MMI: I sent you a response re: the binary image ISOs on my archive site for 4610, read that and it will explain why they don't show up as a normal ISO9660/Joliet on your computer but can still be burned as a direct binary image to the disc.

7. AMI: Get yourself an optical splitter ($50 or so) kit, I believe part # 8E0 035 111 D or 4F0 055 307 B, and you can have both AMI and the CD changer hooked up. Also if you wait to do the MMI update until AMI is installed, and the AMI version is not the latest, the update disc will upgrade your AMI. Or you can do it afterwards too (or check AMI version, make sure its latest, ... ending in 0850 I believe but not positive, theres a thread on it here in the recent posts in the A8/D3 forum). User 'bluewavestudio' has instructions and is selling a kit that will give you a full Android control and video playback etc on your existing MMI as CD #7 (might work with AMI alone too, don't know yet) and it even has a skin he made that makes the interface look like the stock Audi MMI. Very sweet. No FBAS mod required AFAIK. ltooz has good instructions on doing FBAS as well if needed.

11. Valve cover gaskets: I'm replacing both my valve cover gaskets here shortly too. Order the part(s) from autohausaz.com, they have the best pricing. Also get yourself a few extra bolts/screws for the valve covers as some will undoubtably strip/break/whatever. There's a few good threads on it here along w/ caveats and tricks. For instance , I'm not sure the side , but reaching the bolt is very tough and it's easier to cut a flap in the heat shielding to access it. Getting a small socket wrench and small bits in order to reach down in there is a must, and/or get pivoting Torx bits (Bondhus makes a good one).

13. Before you tint, pull back the stripping on the inside-facing part of the window and look down into the well and see if you see a piece of metal pushing into the glass. The window winder/regulator has a known problem where the piece of metal at top of a pulley / frame is known to bend in and put pressure on your window. If you tint the windows with this problem it *will* scratch open the tint line a can of sardines. I learned that the hard way. I replaced the window regulator and am now waiting to get my drivers side re-tinted. Make sure you check all four windows as I recall one guy here having all FOUR of these things pushing into the glass! Also, the rear headrests don't come out unless you remove the rear seat making it a major PITA for the tinting guy. Make sure he knows this in advance so he can ask for more $$ up front so that he takes more time and does the job *right*. Same with the little tiny windows on the rear sides- they aren't the easiest to tint because of shape. If doing this yourself, proceed with this in mind.


Regards,

Naudi
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Alarm Horn issue - battery inside this craps out. Lots of threads on this - easy fix. Here is the part number: 8L0951605A. I took a shot on ebay ($30) and its works fine (for now) versus $270 from ECS.
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Re: Problems still

1: Sirius - ask them to reset it a few more times. It took them a few tries. If that doesn't work, I'm not sure. Is there component protection on these? I'd imagine it wouldn't even show up at all in the MMI with the serial # for activation if it were. Keep trying? (Call them on the phone, don't use the automated one on the web)

3: Does VCDS need to be programmed to tell it that it has a massager? Check on that. I'm not sure, I don't have the ooh-la-la massaging capability, *just* heating and cooling!


Re: Things to do:

1. Diffs: General maint. schedule: Check my Audi resources 'Maintenance Schedules' section for the maint. info on your D3.
3. Squeak: Probably definitely possibly (heh) the control arms. As they say in Game of Thrones, "It is known" (issue)

6. MMI: I sent you a response re: the binary image ISOs on my archive site for 4610, read that and it will explain why they don't show up as a normal ISO9660/Joliet on your computer but can still be burned as a direct binary image to the disc.

7. AMI: Get yourself an optical splitter ($50 or so) kit, I believe part # 8E0 035 111 D or 4F0 055 307 B, and you can have both AMI and the CD changer hooked up. Also if you wait to do the MMI update until AMI is installed, and the AMI version is not the latest, the update disc will upgrade your AMI. Or you can do it afterwards too (or check AMI version, make sure its latest, ... ending in 0850 I believe but not positive, theres a thread on it here in the recent posts in the A8/D3 forum). User 'bluewavestudio' has instructions and is selling a kit that will give you a full Android control and video playback etc on your existing MMI as CD #7 (might work with AMI alone too, don't know yet) and it even has a skin he made that makes the interface look like the stock Audi MMI. Very sweet. No FBAS mod required AFAIK. ltooz has good instructions on doing FBAS as well if needed.

11. Valve cover gaskets: I'm replacing both my valve cover gaskets here shortly too. Order the part(s) from autohausaz.com, they have the best pricing. Also get yourself a few extra bolts/screws for the valve covers as some will undoubtably strip/break/whatever. There's a few good threads on it here along w/ caveats and tricks. For instance , I'm not sure the side , but reaching the bolt is very tough and it's easier to cut a flap in the heat shielding to access it. Getting a small socket wrench and small bits in order to reach down in there is a must, and/or get pivoting Torx bits (Bondhus makes a good one).

13. Before you tint, pull back the stripping on the inside-facing part of the window and look down into the well and see if you see a piece of metal pushing into the glass. The window winder/regulator has a known problem where the piece of metal at top of a pulley / frame is known to bend in and put pressure on your window. If you tint the windows with this problem it *will* scratch open the tint line a can of sardines. I learned that the hard way. I replaced the window regulator and am now waiting to get my drivers side re-tinted. Make sure you check all four windows as I recall one guy here having all FOUR of these things pushing into the glass! Also, the rear headrests don't come out unless you remove the rear seat making it a major PITA for the tinting guy. Make sure he knows this in advance so he can ask for more $$ up front so that he takes more time and does the job *right*. Same with the little tiny windows on the rear sides- they aren't the easiest to tint because of shape. If doing this yourself, proceed with this in mind.


Regards,

Naudi
Thanks for all the info! I am still having issues with the MMI update. Will research what I am doing wrong more tonight.

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Alarm Horn issue - battery inside this craps out. Lots of threads on this - easy fix. Here is the part number: 8L0951605A. I took a shot on ebay ($30) and its works fine (for now) versus $270 from ECS.
That makes sense it is a battery issue as the unit still chirps as it should at lock


Sirius XM. Anyone able to get me some screen shots from their Sirius / XM measuring blocks to see what the antenna information is supposed to look like?

Thanks All!
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I didn't plug Vag-Com in and pull the info from it, but I did pull info from the XM menu, the "green" hidden menu, and the version/etc info from the upgrade menu. See photos attached. I don't know if any of this will help or not.

I'll get VCDS readings from it tomorrow.











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I didn't plug Vag-Com in and pull the info from it, but I did pull info from the XM menu, the "green" hidden menu, and the version/etc info from the upgrade menu. See photos attached. I don't know if any of this will help or not.

I'll get VCDS readings from it tomorrow.

Looks like a module or satellite issue for me.


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  1. Replace 2nd Key-fob. I have the cut key, but the board is damaged. Can I upgrade to a newer style remote? Will a used remote program or does it have to be NEW never programmed?
Keys must be ordered and programmed by a dealer with connection to Ingolsradt.
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  1. Replace 2nd Key-fob. I have the cut key, but the board is damaged. Can I upgrade to a newer style remote? Will a used remote program or does it have to be NEW never programmed?
Keys must be ordered and programmed by a dealer with connection to Ingolsradt.
Well that sucks... I can't stand the dealer! darn, I was hoping it could be programmed with VCDS or the other method of two working cut keys and steps with pushing buttons, ignition on, lock unlock door with the other key. I had not started to research that yet.

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Looks like a module or satellite issue for me.

Yup, no signal- whether you have a subscription or not you should be receiving the signal. Did you do anything to the antenna? Is the car's computers coded to recognize the satellite radio feature? I'm not entirely sure but maybe, if it isn't coded to have it enabled (either coding via VCDS or enabling it in the green menu), it might not bother with tuning in with the antenna?

Or the antenna is busted?

Not sure. But yeah it looks like you have no signal then, and thus any amount of signals sent by XM/Sirius won't get to you.

Also.. I just noticed yours says Sirius while mine says XM. Did you install the latest MMI yet with those CD ISO images?
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Yup, no signal- whether you have a subscription or not you should be receiving the signal. Did you do anything to the antenna? Is the car's computers coded to recognize the satellite radio feature? I'm not entirely sure but maybe, if it isn't coded to have it enabled (either coding via VCDS or enabling it in the green menu), it might not bother with tuning in with the antenna?

Or the antenna is busted?

Not sure. But yeah it looks like you have no signal then, and thus any amount of signals sent by XM/Sirius won't get to you.
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I removed the old shark fin as it showed i received zero satellites in MMI, replaced it with the used antenna (AMI, Nav unit, and satelitte unit all from same car). Every thing is plugged in and should be good. I cannot find anywhere to code for the sirius uni in VCDS and I know so little on the MMI unit modes. Sirius showed up on the MMI as soon as I plugged it in, so I assumed I was good to go. May try to unplug the replacement antenna and swap in the old one tonight to see if get anything. Maybe the Sat radio part still works and I really just need a different one.
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