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Old 03-01-2018, 03:28 AM
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- the part numbers of the tail lights you bought for the right side; : 4E0 945 094K (all 3 lights same part number)
- the part number for your left tail light; : 4E0 945 093K
- your VIN. : WAUMV44E77N009093

Appreciate the help.
Old 03-01-2018, 04:55 AM
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The part numbers seem to be correct. You didn't mention if this problem was always there (ever since you bought the car), or if the right tail light originally worked as it should and then, at some point, it started malfunctioning.
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The Right tail light was working fine when I bought the car. The Left one was not. I bought the Left one and replaced it and it then worked fine with the new one. The right one is the problem. It had been working for months after I bought the car and then all of a sudden it stopped working. Could there be an issue with some kind of computer reset? What about disconnecting the battery (pos and neg) for a couple hours? I don't know if I'll have problems after I connect it back up.
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So, does the center brake light work? Asking because the brake light switches do fail on these cars from time to time. Maybe I missed it but I didn't see anything about you verifying it being good. It's not clear to me if the problem is only with one brake light or all of them.
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The center light is working. All the lights work except for the right tail light assembly and only the brake light portion. Bottom line is only the right brake light is non functional.
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Ok, so I ordered the VCDS Software and cable so I could do the scans. I received it today and scanned it successfully and now I could use some help deciphering the faults. I just copied the faults I thought are related to my issue. I really only had a couple faults besides these. Anyway here is the scan portion I think is related to my problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4E0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 289 D HW: 4E0 907 289 D
Component: Komfortgeraet H07 0010
Revision: 00100007 Serial number: W040609220308
Coding: 0048702
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2A5BE423850AF24EEA7-807F

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 853
Component: Heckdeckel P14H06 0070

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 907 719
Component: Neigungssensor H05 0020

4 Faults Found:
00927 - Terminal 30 (Right)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 98
Mileage: 160046 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.03.04
Time: 14:13:43

00984 - Left Tail Light (M4)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 71
Mileage: 150788 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.23
Time: 15:42:38

00984 - Left Tail Light (M4)
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 71
Mileage: 150788 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.23
Time: 15:42:38

01828 - Bulb for Tail-Lamp; Left
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 170
Reset counter: 67
Mileage: 142975 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.03.07
Time: 11:05:11

The left inner tail light was replaced about 7/8 months ago and the dash light went away. Everything works on the left. The fault codes were not cleared. My battery is dated May 2014 so it's approaching 4 years old not original nor OEM. Voltage is 12.4 not running and 14.1 running at night with lights on. Not sure what to make of the, "00927 - Terminal 30 (Right)" fault. Any help is appreciated.
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I cleared the codes after the first scan and drove it a while. The 00927 Terminal 30 (Right) is no longer there. Here's the new scan where I list only the areas with fault codes.

Tuesday,13,March,2018,09:54:59:62939
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: Release 12.12.0 (x64)
Data version: 20130910


VIN: WAUMV44E77N009093 License Plate: 6733VV
Mileage: 160160km-99518mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 4E (4L0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 0E 0F 15 16 17 19 28 34 36 37 38 42
46 47 4F 52 53 55 56 61 62 65 67 6C 72 76 77

VIN: WAUMV44E77N009093 Mileage: 160160km/99518miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4E0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 289 D HW: 4E0 907 289 D
Component: Komfortgeraet H07 0010
Revision: 00100007 Serial number: W040609220308
Coding: 0048702
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2A5BE423850AF24EEA7-807F

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 853
Component: Heckdeckel P14H06 0070

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 907 719
Component: Neigungssensor H05 0020

3 Faults Found:
00984 - Left Tail Light (M4)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 74
Mileage: 150788 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.23
Time: 15:42:38

00984 - Left Tail Light (M4)
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 74
Mileage: 150788 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.23
Time: 15:42:38

01828 - Bulb for Tail-Lamp; Left
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 74
Mileage: 150788 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.23
Time: 15:42:38


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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 4E0-910-223.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 223 R HW: 4E0 035 223 G
Component: DSP-High D3 H02 0120
Revision: PROD_01 Serial number: 00000000005572
Coding: 0000016
Shop #: WSC 09417 444 13726
VCID: 2C57E23B8FFEEC7E18B-8079

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 10
Reset counter: 76
Mileage: 160146 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.03.12
Time: 17:02:24


Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4E0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 181 C HW: 4E0 915 181 C
Component: J0644 BEM H12 0550
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000021111
Shop #: WSC 25166 444 84618
VCID: 204F060BF336381EB43-8075

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 915 105 A
Component: von VA0 0609280055
Coding: 344530393135313035412056413030363039323830303535
Shop #: WSC 00000 128 00289

2 Faults Found:
02272 - Quiescent Current Stage 1
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 6
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 158599 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.01.31
Time: 12:27:09

02273 - Quiescent Current Stage 2
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 158599 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.01.31
Time: 12:30:36


Address 65: Tire Pressure Labels: 4E0-910-273.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 273 A HW: 4F0 907 273 A
Component: Reifendruck 3 H05
Revision: 00050340 Serial number: 00000700047598
Coding: 0232125
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 204F060BF336381EB43-8075

1 Fault Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101101
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 114
Mileage: 160146 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.03.12
Time: 16:17:19

Freeze Frame:
(no units): 255.0
Voltage: 0.00 V
(no units): 27.0
Temperature: 13.0°C
Temperature: 13.0°C
Temperature: 11.0°C
Temperature: 12.0°C


Still have the Right Inner Tail Light brake light not working. Really could use the help to get this working. Thanks in advance.
Old 03-14-2018, 01:35 PM
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Try this: disconnect the left tail lamp. Disconnect the battery. Reconnect the battery after a short while (10 seconds should do), with the left tail lamp still disconnected.
Try and see if the right tail lamp fully works.

It wouldn't surprise me if the whole time the right tail lamp didn't work because of a defective left tail lamp, as shown in the logs!
Old 03-15-2018, 07:22 AM
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Ok Silkworm, first let me thank you for taking the time to help. Really appreciate it. Here's what I did and results:
I did exactly as you said and the brake light still didn't work.
I repeated the procedure you suggested except I left the battery disconnected for around 30 minutes. It still didn't work.
I connecting the left lamp assembly back and tried but the right assembly still didn't work.
I started the car and now I had the bulb out (left side ) icon on the dash.
I ran a scan and saved it.
I took it for a ride a couple of miles and got some gas turning the car off.
When I started the car again the bulb out icon was no longer on the dash. No lights on the dash at all.
I tested all the lights (i.e., lights on, backup light, rear fog lights, turn signal,) and they all work left and right except for the right brake light.
I tried clearing the left light fault codes but they would clear and then immediately re-appear. Can't clear the codes despite the fact that the left light assembly is fully functional.
I ran another scan and below is everything listed with a fault. The Terminal 30 fault is an interesting one. Don't know what it is.
Following is the scan: Thanks again for all the help.

Thursday,15,March,2018,10:38:51:62939
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: Release 12.12.0 (x64)
Data version: 20130910


VIN: WAUMV44E77N009093 License Plate: 6733VV
Mileage: 160280km-99593mi Repair Order:



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: 4E (4L0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 0E 0F 15 16 17 19 28 34 36 37 38 42
46 47 4F 52 53 55 56 61 62 65 67 6C 72 76 77

VIN: WAUMV44E77N009093 Mileage: 160280km/99593miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4E1 910 560 A HW: 4E1 907 560
Component: 4.2l V8/4V 0040
Revision: 71H16--- Serial number: AUX3Z0F7706244
Coding: 01060009190F0120
Shop #: WSC 09417 444 85746
VCID: 204F060BF336381EB43-8075

2 Faults Found:
005634 - Power Supply Terminal 30
P1602 - 002 - Voltage too Low - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Load: 0.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: -40.0°C
Temperature: -40.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 0.0 mbar
Voltage: 0.000 V

005715 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller
P1653 - 008 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 160280 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.03.15
Time: 00:01:55

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Load: 0.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 48.0°C
Temperature: 45.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
Voltage: 11.938 V

Readiness: 0000 0000


Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4E0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 517 B HW: 4E0 614 517 BC
Component: ESP 5.7 allrad H46 0510
Coding: 0007597
Shop #: WSC 02313 000 00000
VCID: 224B0C03FD3A2A0EA27-8077

1 Fault Found:
01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30
000 - - - Intermittent

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4E0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 279 Q HW: 4E0 907 279 Q
Component: ILM Fahrer H15 0230
Coding: 0143123
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 3663C05341B2A6AE7EF-8063

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E1 910 113 C
Component: Wischer WWS D3 H60 0420
Coding: 00000037
Shop #: WSC 02313

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557 A Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH13 0090
Coding: 00139548
Shop #: WSC 02313

1 Fault Found:
00908 - Control Module for Wiper Motor
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 124
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4E0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 289 D HW: 4E0 907 289 D
Component: Komfortgeraet H07 0010
Revision: 00100007 Serial number: W040609220308
Coding: 0048702
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2A5BE423850AF24EEA7-807F

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 853
Component: Heckdeckel P14H06 0070

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 907 719
Component: Neigungssensor H05 0020

4 Faults Found:
01518 - Bulb for Back-Up Lights; Left (M16)
009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 125
Mileage: 160280 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.03.15
Time: 00:03:01

00984 - Left Tail Light (M4)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 83
Mileage: 150788 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.23
Time: 15:42:38

00984 - Left Tail Light (M4)
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 83
Mileage: 150788 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.23
Time: 15:42:38

01828 - Bulb for Tail-Lamp; Left
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 170
Reset counter: 67
Mileage: 142975 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.03.07
Time: 11:05:11


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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 4E0-910-223.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 223 R HW: 4E0 035 223 G
Component: DSP-High D3 H02 0120
Revision: PROD_01 Serial number: 00000000005572
Coding: 0000016
Shop #: WSC 09417 444 13726
VCID: 2C57E23B8FFEEC7E18B-8079

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 38
Reset counter: 85
Mileage: 160174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.03.13
Time: 11:48:47
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Old 04-27-2018, 07:38 AM
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Finally fixed and what a lesson. As it turns out the D3 does not have break lights on the inner tail lights. Only the outer tail lights are supposed to light up when the break pedal is depressed. What threw me off was that the left inner tail light was lighting up when the break pedal was depressed. I then thought that the right inner tail light should be lighting up as well. Well the left inner tail light had a short to ground and in fact was defective. The VCDS diagnostic was telling me that the left inner tail light did in fact have a short. Lesson learned, pay attention to the diagnostic software, it works. At the dealer they told me that the Comfort Control Module was fried when the left inner tail light shorted out. I have no way of really knowing this. I would venture to say that if I were fixing it I would've replaced the left inner tail light first then deal with the module second. So the left inner tail light and the comfort control module (which took two weeks to get from Germany, programmed to the VIN number) took care of the problem. Everything working fine now. Thanks to all my Audi friends for all the help.
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