Air Suspension Issues - Out of Ideas..
#1
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Air Suspension Issues - Out of Ideas..
I just wrapped up on a multi-part suspension overhaul on an 07 4.2 (sport suspension). Everything went like clockwork until calibration and the test drive. I had been having minor issues over the last 3 months which I'll spare the long details and fast forward to the issue.
Items replaced:
- FR strut (Arnott - new) - replaced in July
- Air Compressor (Wabco - new) - just replaced
- Valve Block - just replaced
- Intake Filter - just replaced
Sorry for the novel, but important details....
No leaks from struts, valve block, or compressor. I went through calibration fine, except the RR always seemed to stay about 10-12mm lower than the LR. My height setting is 11 so I'm running at 20mm lower front and rear. I ran the calibration about 15 times, entering the true values from the measurements. Each time - I entered the measured value for the RR (telling VCDS that it was low) which it accepted and let me save. The system would make adjustments and I would exit out and re-measure. Every time - the result was the same. The RR kept measuring out 10-12mm lower on the tape. One thing that was strange: when I bled the system all the way down to the ground, the RR sat on the ground a little lower than the LR. All the BAR levels showed flat, and the floor is level. I inspected all RR suspension components which turned out fine. After each bleed down - I would air everything all the way up with VCDS, then drop back to normal and re-run calibration - same result: successful calibration, but RR still 10-12mm lower than LR. I went to the measuring blocks and the RR was showing to be 10-12mm lower than the LR on four different occasions so the car knew that the RR was low the whole time. I would think that the system would have leveled itself out, but it didn't. I calibrated one last time and then went for a drive to see if anything would change.
During the test drive - I heard the compressor kick on/off every 15 or 20 seconds. Each time for just a few seconds. This got me thinking about the RR level sensor - could it be bad? I was under the impression that they either work or they don't? I thought about the RR level sensor always reading low - maybe it kept asking for air which is why the compressor kept kicking on? But the car always knew the RR was low because the measuring blocks showed it each time, but it always accepted the value and saved during calibration? Why wasn't the system adjusting after the calibration? On two different calibrations: the first one - I told the car that the RR was low, then on the second - I told the car that the LR was high. Neither method seemed to level out the rear - just the same result of the RR always being lower than the LR. I unplugged each sensor at all four corners to inspect for water / pin damage and the insides were all clean and dry, so no water penetration. I even unbolted both rear sensor arms and worked them around a few times and re-attached, but still got the same result in the end.
So - new compressor, new valve block, no leaks, and successful calibration. Only thing left is the level sensor, (maybe acceleration sensor?), or strut relief valve? I guess the RR strut could be bad? Strut relief valves are cheap, but I hate to throw a $150 level sensor or $700 strut at it on a whim! What am I missing??
Items replaced:
- FR strut (Arnott - new) - replaced in July
- Air Compressor (Wabco - new) - just replaced
- Valve Block - just replaced
- Intake Filter - just replaced
Sorry for the novel, but important details....
No leaks from struts, valve block, or compressor. I went through calibration fine, except the RR always seemed to stay about 10-12mm lower than the LR. My height setting is 11 so I'm running at 20mm lower front and rear. I ran the calibration about 15 times, entering the true values from the measurements. Each time - I entered the measured value for the RR (telling VCDS that it was low) which it accepted and let me save. The system would make adjustments and I would exit out and re-measure. Every time - the result was the same. The RR kept measuring out 10-12mm lower on the tape. One thing that was strange: when I bled the system all the way down to the ground, the RR sat on the ground a little lower than the LR. All the BAR levels showed flat, and the floor is level. I inspected all RR suspension components which turned out fine. After each bleed down - I would air everything all the way up with VCDS, then drop back to normal and re-run calibration - same result: successful calibration, but RR still 10-12mm lower than LR. I went to the measuring blocks and the RR was showing to be 10-12mm lower than the LR on four different occasions so the car knew that the RR was low the whole time. I would think that the system would have leveled itself out, but it didn't. I calibrated one last time and then went for a drive to see if anything would change.
During the test drive - I heard the compressor kick on/off every 15 or 20 seconds. Each time for just a few seconds. This got me thinking about the RR level sensor - could it be bad? I was under the impression that they either work or they don't? I thought about the RR level sensor always reading low - maybe it kept asking for air which is why the compressor kept kicking on? But the car always knew the RR was low because the measuring blocks showed it each time, but it always accepted the value and saved during calibration? Why wasn't the system adjusting after the calibration? On two different calibrations: the first one - I told the car that the RR was low, then on the second - I told the car that the LR was high. Neither method seemed to level out the rear - just the same result of the RR always being lower than the LR. I unplugged each sensor at all four corners to inspect for water / pin damage and the insides were all clean and dry, so no water penetration. I even unbolted both rear sensor arms and worked them around a few times and re-attached, but still got the same result in the end.
So - new compressor, new valve block, no leaks, and successful calibration. Only thing left is the level sensor, (maybe acceleration sensor?), or strut relief valve? I guess the RR strut could be bad? Strut relief valves are cheap, but I hate to throw a $150 level sensor or $700 strut at it on a whim! What am I missing??
#2
AudiWorld Super User
Someone here replaced the rear inlet valves to fix his rear suspension problem a few weeks ago, search for it.
The pump should not be on while driving. There must be a leak at or after the valve block.
Reset the suspension to factory settings since you messed with VCDS, let the "sophisticated system" do its work. Most of savvy VCDS users seem to have weird problems...coincidences?
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/sho...8#post25219028
Cheers,
Louis
The pump should not be on while driving. There must be a leak at or after the valve block.
Reset the suspension to factory settings since you messed with VCDS, let the "sophisticated system" do its work. Most of savvy VCDS users seem to have weird problems...coincidences?
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/sho...8#post25219028
Cheers,
Louis
Last edited by ltooz_a6_a8_q7; 10-21-2018 at 06:55 AM.
#3
AudiWorld Wiseguy
You’re not getting in and out of the car at all whilst doing the calibration are you? Your body weight in and out of the car is enough to throw off the calibration process.
#4
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Someone here replaced the rear inlet valves to fix his rear suspension problem a few weeks ago, search for it.
The pump should not be on while driving. There must be a leak at or after the valve block.
Reset the suspension to factory settings since you messed with VCDS, let the "sophisticated system" do its work. Most of savvy VCDS users seem to have weird problems...coincidences?
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/sho...8#post25219028
Cheers,
Louis
The pump should not be on while driving. There must be a leak at or after the valve block.
Reset the suspension to factory settings since you messed with VCDS, let the "sophisticated system" do its work. Most of savvy VCDS users seem to have weird problems...coincidences?
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/sho...8#post25219028
Cheers,
Louis
#5
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Nope - standing outside with laptop on roof. (I can neither confirm or deny that I may have done that back in the day when I first got VCDS though....!)
#6
AudiWorld Wiseguy
Try swapping with a level sensor from a different wheel. They are interchangeable. See if the problem follows the level sensor. Then you will either have the answer, or at least be able to categorically rule that out as the fault.
#7
Compressor should stay off most of the time during driving.
Sounds like that the sensor or shock is wrong.
Note that there exist 2 types of struts, normal suspension and sport suspension. Note sure if ther difference is only stiffness or also ride height.
Sounds like that the sensor or shock is wrong.
Note that there exist 2 types of struts, normal suspension and sport suspension. Note sure if ther difference is only stiffness or also ride height.
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#8
AudiWorld Wiseguy
Good point. Sport suspension struts I believe have a shorter stem on them to give lower ride height, as well as different shock valving. Although level sensors should pick that up....
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