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Mike141 07-01-2018 07:57 AM

High Pressure Fuel Pump Fail Replaced
 
My 2007 A8 4.2FSI was running fine all along until this morning when I went out to start it. It was idling extremely rough, no response from accelerator and then stalled. Here are the codes I pulled: Any thoughts on where to start? Car is stuck now in driveway. It is definitely a fuel issue I just do not know where to begin. Thanks!
12 Faults Found:
000135 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure: Too Low

P0087 - 008 - Implausible Signal

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01101000

Fault Priority: 0

Fault Frequency: 1

Mileage: 201130 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2018.06.30

Time: 14:19:16



Freeze Frame:

RPM: 2218 /min

Load: 59.2 %

Speed: 44.0 km/h

Temperature: 94.0°C

Temperature: 41.0°C

Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar

Voltage: 13.716 V



001112 - Evap System Purge Control Valve (N80): Short to Ground

P0458 - 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - MIL ON

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 11100010

Fault Priority: 0

Fault Frequency: 1

Mileage: 201130 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2018.07.01

Time: 10:54:29



Freeze Frame:

RPM: 734 /min

Load: 92.1 %

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Temperature: 30.0°C

Temperature: 31.0°C

Absolute Pres.: 970.0 mbar

Voltage: 10.160 V



005224 - EVAP Canister Solenoid Valve 2 (N115): Short to Ground

P1468 - 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - MIL ON

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 11100010

Fault Priority: 0

Fault Frequency: 1

Mileage: 201130 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2018.07.01

Time: 10:54:29



Freeze Frame:

RPM: 734 /min

Load: 92.1 %

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Temperature: 30.0°C

Temperature: 31.0°C

Absolute Pres.: 970.0 mbar

Voltage: 11.811 V



004199 - Intake Air Switch-Over Valve (N335): Short to Ground

P1067 - 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01100010

Fault Priority: 0

Fault Frequency: 1

Mileage: 201130 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2018.07.01

Time: 10:54:29



Freeze Frame:

RPM: 734 /min

Load: 92.1 %

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Temperature: 30.0°C

Temperature: 31.0°C

Absolute Pres.: 970.0 mbar

Voltage: 11.811 V



005173 - Secondary Air Pump Relay (J299): Short to Ground

P1435 - 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - MIL ON

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 11100010

Fault Priority: 0

Fault Frequency: 1

Mileage: 201130 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2018.07.01

Time: 10:54:29



Freeze Frame:

RPM: 734 /min

Load: 92.1 %

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Temperature: 30.0°C

Temperature: 31.0°C

Absolute Pres.: 970.0 mbar

Voltage: 11.811 V



005494 - Right Engine Mount Solenoid Valve (N145): Short to Ground

P1576 - 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01100010

Fault Priority: 0

Fault Frequency: 1

Mileage: 201130 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2018.07.01

Time: 10:54:29



Freeze Frame:

RPM: 734 /min

Load: 92.1 %

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Temperature: 30.0°C

Temperature: 31.0°C

Absolute Pres.: 970.0 mbar

Voltage: 11.811 V



005490 - Left Engine Mount Solenoid Valve (N144): Short to Ground

P1572 - 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01100010

Fault Priority: 0

Fault Frequency: 1

Mileage: 201130 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2018.07.01

Time: 10:54:29



Freeze Frame:

RPM: 734 /min

Load: 92.1 %

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Temperature: 30.0°C

Temperature: 31.0°C

Absolute Pres.: 970.0 mbar

Voltage: 11.811 V



000258 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70): Signal too Low

P0102 - 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - MIL ON

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 11100010

Fault Priority: 0

Fault Frequency: 1

Mileage: 201130 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2018.07.01

Time: 10:54:30



Freeze Frame:

RPM: 445 /min

Load: 54.1 %

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Temperature: 30.0°C

Temperature: 30.0°C

Absolute Pres.: 970.0 mbar

Voltage: 11.811 V



005715 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller

P1653 - 008 - Implausible Signal

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01101000

Fault Priority: 0

Fault Frequency: 3

Mileage: 201130 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2018.07.01

Time: 10:54:30



Freeze Frame:

RPM: 440 /min

Load: 45.5 %

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Temperature: 30.0°C

Temperature: 30.0°C

Absolute Pres.: 970.0 mbar

Voltage: 12.065 V



008852 - Fuel Pressure Regulator Valve (N276): Open Circuit

P2294 - 004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent - MIL ON

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 10100100

Fault Priority: 0

Fault Frequency: 2

Mileage: 201130 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2018.07.01

Time: 10:54:30



Freeze Frame:

RPM: 399 /min

Load: 45.9 %

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Temperature: 30.0°C

Temperature: 30.0°C

Absolute Pres.: 970.0 mbar

Voltage: 11.811 V



004763 - Fuel Pressure Regulator Valve; Bank 2 (N276): Open Circuit

P129B - 004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent - MIL ON

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 10100100

Fault Priority: 0

Fault Frequency: 2

Mileage: 201130 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2018.07.01

Time: 10:54:30



Freeze Frame:

RPM: 399 /min

Load: 45.9 %

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Temperature: 30.0°C

Temperature: 30.0°C

Absolute Pres.: 970.0 mbar

Voltage: 11.811 V



009217 - EVAP Leak Detection Pump Control Circuit: Short to GND

P2401 - 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01100010

Fault Priority: 0

Fault Frequency: 1

Mileage: 201130 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2018.07.01

Time: 10:55:05



Freeze Frame:

RPM: 306 /min

Load: 66.2 %

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Temperature: 30.0°C

Temperature: 30.0°C

Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar

Voltage: 13.208 V

ltooz_a6_a8_q7 07-01-2018 09:07 AM

If all signals shorted to ground, check some fuses. Something loose or open. I wouldn't assume something drastic. Open the hood and start checking all wirings and hoses. MAF would do that to you, check and clean.
Cheers and good luck,
Louis

Mike141 07-01-2018 12:54 PM

Would a dirty or faulty MAF cause all these other codes? I will try taking it off and give it a cleaning. But yesterday when I drove it, it was fine, no hesitation what so ever now it won't even run. Ugh!!

Jack88 07-01-2018 02:33 PM

Lots of shorts to ground there. Worth checking all the fuses as mentioned, but I would also look at wiring, could have been a rodent chewing away at something, that happens on occasion.

ltooz_a6_a8_q7 07-01-2018 03:09 PM

Yes, it jus happened whenever. This is how I documented my MAF failures on 4.2 D2
http://www.dognmonkey.com/audi/98-a8...-problems.html
Just check wiring under the hood, most of the time, when the electrical is bad, all components should show up, I wouldn't trust the VCDS religiously. Clear the failures, charge the battery fully and try again. Something must popped out of place.
Cheers,
Louis

MP4.2+6.0 07-01-2018 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Mike141 (Post 25173897)
Would a dirty or faulty MAF cause all these other codes? I will try taking it off and give it a cleaning. But yesterday when I drove it, it was fine, no hesitation what so ever now it won't even run. Ugh!!

No, generally not.

Just unplug the MAF to test. Then it runs open loop/a.k.a. a default program. IIRC MAF can only adjust fuel up or down 25% so it is really a system that corrects mixture more precisely relative to baseline set up. Baseline should be 14:1 mixture.

FWIW, my own initial guesses variously are some fuse issue, a failing fuel pump, or...a bad battery. Remember that D3's get very temperamental electrically right as battery is on verge of collapse. Look at the scan you posted. Virtually every voltage reading shown is sub par, with the exception of the very last one. Sub 12V to me says failing or discharged battery. Not definitive, but decent pointer.

Mike141 07-01-2018 04:52 PM

Where exactly are the fuses for the fuel pumps? I think it is a fuel pump issue, the car will start and sputter like it's not getting fuel until it eventually stalls. I don't even hear the pump engaging when I open the driver's door like it should. I took apart MAF and cleaned it, no difference.

Mike141 07-01-2018 06:52 PM

Located a blown 15A fuse for engine management. I assume this is an issue; will replace tomorrow but I'm afraid the new fuse will just pop again.

ltooz_a6_a8_q7 07-01-2018 07:36 PM

Pictures of the fuse and location?

Mike141 07-02-2018 04:25 AM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.aud...0a57f8f3c.jpeg
Passenger (US) side fuse panel. I will replace later on today to see if it fixes the issue.


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