Dead, real dead
06-15-2019, 04:09 PM
#1
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
Dead, real dead
I started the car this morning and rolled up the windows. Running maybe 10 seconds. Jumped in it this afternoon and it is DEAD. No electrical.
Battery was hot, drove it a hour on Wednesday and twice yesterday, maybe an hour.
It read about a fuse. Also tried key and it is stuck in ignition now.
Plan on opening trunk and pulling cables and reinstalling tomorrow. Battery is a AGM from Advanced, maybe 3 years ago.
Battery was hot, drove it a hour on Wednesday and twice yesterday, maybe an hour.
It read about a fuse. Also tried key and it is stuck in ignition now.
Plan on opening trunk and pulling cables and reinstalling tomorrow. Battery is a AGM from Advanced, maybe 3 years ago.
06-15-2019, 07:17 PM
#3
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
06-15-2019, 07:25 PM
#4
AudiWorld Super User
By your description, the hot battery meant something with somewhat high current draw drained it.
You should know how to remove the key stuck in the ignition. It's in the owners manual.
Every emergency procedure for the car should be practiced under ideal conditions. When there is a failure, the conditions are usually crappy.
1. Remote dies. Manual key access for drivers door and trunk.
2 Sunroof motor failure. In open position and rain falling.
3. Hood latch cable breakage.
4. Ignition key stuck due to dead battery.
You should know how to remove the key stuck in the ignition. It's in the owners manual.
Every emergency procedure for the car should be practiced under ideal conditions. When there is a failure, the conditions are usually crappy.
1. Remote dies. Manual key access for drivers door and trunk.
2 Sunroof motor failure. In open position and rain falling.
3. Hood latch cable breakage.
4. Ignition key stuck due to dead battery.
06-15-2019, 09:25 PM
#5
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
I have got to look for it
By your description, the hot battery meant something with somewhat high current draw drained it.
You should know how to remove the key stuck in the ignition. It's in the owners manual.
Every emergency procedure for the car should be practiced under ideal conditions. When there is a failure, the conditions are usually crappy.
1. Remote dies. Manual key access for drivers door and trunk.
2 Sunroof motor failure. In open position and rain falling.
3. Hood latch cable breakage.
4. Ignition key stuck due to dead battery.
You should know how to remove the key stuck in the ignition. It's in the owners manual.
Every emergency procedure for the car should be practiced under ideal conditions. When there is a failure, the conditions are usually crappy.
1. Remote dies. Manual key access for drivers door and trunk.
2 Sunroof motor failure. In open position and rain falling.
3. Hood latch cable breakage.
4. Ignition key stuck due to dead battery.
I have the original and was looking through it. Do not know if it was “put away” or thrown away.
Will look for it also. I have not seen the owners manual in 3 - 4 months.
Plan On using other key to open the trunk and reset battery.
The hot battery was my description of fully charged. After driving for a few hours recently it should be fully charged.
06-15-2019, 10:42 PM
#6
AudiWorld Super User
1. Besides the electoral load question, I would not assume automatically the battery is good. Maybe defective, maybe constant heavy drain, maybe some already accumulated run downs, maybe just got a relative lemon. 3 years is on early side, maybe more so for AGM, but possible.
2. Consider that maybe the main safety fuse blew for whatever reason. Supposed to only blow itself up (literally) in a crash, but maybe. It is there with the battery if you just follow the negative to the enclosure box. Variously look at it for signs it is blown and possibly jumper past it (with probably literally a starting jumper cable) and see if you get current flow. Alternately just disconnect the heavy leads temporarily and then test for continuity. Don't play with any jumpering of the small power leads/connector to it, or...poof/bang.
2. Consider that maybe the main safety fuse blew for whatever reason. Supposed to only blow itself up (literally) in a crash, but maybe. It is there with the battery if you just follow the negative to the enclosure box. Variously look at it for signs it is blown and possibly jumper past it (with probably literally a starting jumper cable) and see if you get current flow. Alternately just disconnect the heavy leads temporarily and then test for continuity. Don't play with any jumpering of the small power leads/connector to it, or...poof/bang.
Last edited by MP4.2+6.0; 06-15-2019 at 10:45 PM.
06-16-2019, 12:49 PM
#7
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
Will give it a try
1. Besides the electoral load question, I would not assume automatically the battery is good. Maybe defective, maybe constant heavy drain, maybe some already accumulated run downs, maybe just got a relative lemon. 3 years is on early side, maybe more so for AGM, but possible.
2. Consider that maybe the main safety fuse blew for whatever reason. Supposed to only blow itself up (literally) in a crash, but maybe. It is there with the battery if you just follow the negative to the enclosure box. Variously look at it for signs it is blown and possibly jumper past it (with probably literally a starting jumper cable) and see if you get current flow. Alternately just disconnect the heavy leads temporarily and then test for continuity. Don't play with any jumpering of the small power leads/connector to it, or...poof/bang.
2. Consider that maybe the main safety fuse blew for whatever reason. Supposed to only blow itself up (literally) in a crash, but maybe. It is there with the battery if you just follow the negative to the enclosure box. Variously look at it for signs it is blown and possibly jumper past it (with probably literally a starting jumper cable) and see if you get current flow. Alternately just disconnect the heavy leads temporarily and then test for continuity. Don't play with any jumpering of the small power leads/connector to it, or...poof/bang.
Trending Topics
06-16-2019, 04:16 PM
#8
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
Never expected
The AGM from Advance seems to be the issue. Read 3 volts in the car and about 5 vdc on the trusty Simpson 260 after pulling out of the car. Advance closed before I could get down there.
It is sitting on my charger drawing six amperes. Will see if it takes a charge.
The car sits for long periods sometimes, but drove it three days in a row before it failed. Cranked right off each time. May be heat related, it has been in the 90’s.
It is sitting on my charger drawing six amperes. Will see if it takes a charge.
The car sits for long periods sometimes, but drove it three days in a row before it failed. Cranked right off each time. May be heat related, it has been in the 90’s.
06-17-2019, 03:30 PM
#9
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
On the road again
Think the case cracked on the Advance Auto H8 AGM. Saw some white power under the battery. Did not see a crack after pulling out. Might explain it dying in less than 4 years. Died fast, went from operating fine to DEAD in six hours.
06-17-2019, 04:42 PM
#10
AudiWorld Super User
You never know....I bought an OEM battery for my wife's Q5 last year....put it in myself.....and it died within 3 months. It took me a while to troubleshoot it.....and I would of never believed what I saw unless I recorded it....and you WOULDN'T believe the time I had getting a replacement from the dealer. In the end, I had to pay them $185 to install it and code the car, they wanted an extra $150 troubleshooting fee, all after I bought the battery for something like $240. I had to call the GM of the dealer and leave a message to get any movement. Here is the video....worth a watch: