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Old 01-24-2019, 08:14 AM
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2011 A8L 4.2v8 with 76k miles. Noticing a very subtle clattering noise that increases with engine rpm. Itís very annoying in an otherwise hush cabin. Not audible at higher speeds because other noises, such as road, mask it. Sounds almost diesel like. Dealer is trying to tell me Ďthey all make this soundí, which is hard for me to believe.
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:28 AM
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Have you had your timing belt replaced?
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Doesn't this car have a chain rather than a belt?
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Unfortunately, the audio gets diminished on uploading to youtube, but you can sort of hear it at the 3 second mark and beyond:
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The noise, according to the Audi dealer, is "a normal noise - the cam actuators for the timing chains". If that's true, I'm surprised more people aren't complaining about this, especially given how expensive this car was originally.
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I would have someone in the car hold the rpms at different points while you poke your head under the hood and try and isolate the noise.
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You’re correct in this being chain driven. This might possibly be the chain guides/tensioners. The chain is in the rear facing the firewall which could explain why you can hear it with little road noise to mask it.

Its a familiar sound as I just had my guides go on my 98 740iL. Completely unrelated vehicle but the sound is familiar.

Do you hear this consistently or on cold start?
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I hear it consistently. They claim what Iím hearing to be the cam actuators for the timing chain. In that light, is this something that people just learn to live with? I was unable to hear it outside the car with the hood up, or while driving along a wall or something that could reflect the sound. Yes, it seems like whatever part produces this noise is very close to the firewall, explaining why itís almost impossible to hear externally over the sound of the engine running.
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Well maybe someone else can chime in with another suggestion or idea as to what this sound could be. If it truly is the tensioner/guides it is something that will inevitably need replacing. Regular oil changes is recommended just to keep the wear to a minimum but it will by no means stop the need to replace them.

Do you have a trusted Indy you could take it to?
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Thanks for the insight. Yes, definitely have a good independent Audi mechanic here, so Iím covered in that light. I guess Iím just surprised that these things need to be replaced given all the talk of ďchains should last the life of the engineĒ, etc that I hear. Maybe the prior owners did a bad job of regular oil changes. I hope with a new chain, tension era, etc that the noise will go away.

Its great to to see such an involved Audi community online. Really makes me glad I bought the car (even though it wonít be cheap to maintain).
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