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hoospiders 04-29-2019 12:11 PM

part number and source for lower intake manifold o-rings
 
trying to wrap up my 1991 V8 Quattro five-speed resurrection project. by way of update, the frame/rail has been straightened, and the crumpled section cut off and replaced by a metallic pearl donor section (thanks Eurotrash Motorsports, Snohomish, WA).

now its gaskets, o-rings, and seals time from the valve-covers on up. sadly, this also includes a new oil return tube, as mine was bent in a tragic having-a-garage-door-close-on-it-while-it was-sticking-out-of-the-front-of-the-car mishap:

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that was a bad day, but i digress. my current problem is finding the o-rings that fit into the grooves on the top of the Lower Intake Runner:

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part number 034115427 from oempc.com got me o-rings that were a lot smaller than the ones that i removed when i split the halves of the intake manifold to clean it up. has anyone ever replaced these o-rings, and if so, where did you get them, and what p/n did you use?

yodasfro 05-03-2019 08:37 AM

According to etka those should be the right o-rings. What do the ones you got look like?

hoospiders 05-09-2019 02:22 PM

thanks for confirming yoda. i ended up ordering eight of these from McMaster-Carr:

Chemical-Resistant Viton Fluoroelastomer O-Ring, Super-Resilient, 3 mm Wide, 50 mm ID, Packs of 5

$9.36 per 5-pack. this is what they look like (left to right, originals, ones that came from FCP Euro, and ones that came from McMaster-Carr):

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i am going to reuse this o-ring (p/n 077133237B):

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the only place its still available is via Audi Tradition, and its just not shabby-looking enough to jump through all of those hoops (they still won't let US customers order directly online, last i checked).

then last but not least, one more stumbling block appeared out of nowhere to slow my progress: broken water pump bolts. going to try to extract as many as possible. threaded holes are badly damaged will likely get timeserts. wish me luck!


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toml99 05-12-2019 08:43 AM

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Hey, sorry to see that pic of the water pump. I sent that to a guy that was a V8 guy for years and after having to deal with that during a belt job had had enough and got rid of the car...He said he used a steel spring pin that fit into holes in water pump and placed pump in place to use the spring pin as a guide to start the drill bit dead center. Also thanks for the size of o-rings as I will be in there replacing the head on Lago at some point and it's nice to know ahead of time how big. I dug thru my mess and found an oil cooler/lines, but are pretty ugly compared to yours....If you can't find anything better, you can have for shipping. Might also be able to cut out bend and braze a section of pipe in there. I'm rooting for you to get this back on the road....Good luck, Tom

hoospiders 05-12-2019 01:10 PM

Tom,

thanks for the encouragement and the offer. Believe it or not, the oil return tube itself, though bent, does not appear to have cracked/split during the straightening process, so I am going to reinstall and check for leaks regularly while I continue to reassemble the front of the car.

Thats a a good idea re: the spring clips. I had already considered using the old water pump as a drilling template after I botched one of the first 4 screws that I tried to drill out and realized that the “freehand” approach would likely end in disaster if I continued on that road, and I was going to make a plexiglass template using the old water pump as a guide, but o think the spring clip idea is the easiest route to pursue at this point. I will post when the holes are cleaned up and ready for the new water pump.

Vince

toml99 05-12-2019 07:28 PM

Yeah, I thought that spring pin idea was great.....I've been off just enough many times that I couldn't just chase the threads and wished I had a jig, but if you found the right pin, it's perfect. Still nobody's idea of fun. On a different note, if you don't know of the 50/50 acetone/ATF mix as a penetrant, it's my go to on anything that's really frozen. A guy did series of tests on all the available penetrants, and the 50/50 beat them all....Acetone really wicks it in there. There's also Freeze-off which is a penetrant with a freeze spray so I torch/freeze/torch/freeze then hit it with the 50/50 and if enough stub left might just get them out.....I'll do that before I get out the drill as I"ve been off enough times to call that last resort....If you prepped enough with the penetrant a reverse bit sometimes will also spin it out.....Good luck, I don't envy that at all....Tom


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