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Old 11-09-2017, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Civuck
Haven't checked this yet myself but if "D" = "Comfort" and "S" = Dynamic, does that Engine/Trans. checkmark in the Individual Drive Select settings change when you toggle with the gearshifter?

D/S selection with the gearshifter obviously has priority over all the Drive Select modes.
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Originally Posted by s3burgh
What is your source for this information? If what you're saying were true, then why even have drive select settings for engine/trans if the actual determining factor for engine/trans settings are whether or not you are in D or S?
Various technical sources I came across and 5 years of personal experience with the system in various Audi models from the A3 to the R8. The Audi ECUs have been reverse engineered multiple times and shown that there are only two throttle maps, unless you have the Efficiency mode. Drive Select is simply a set of predefined settings that you can instantly recall, but once recalled you can deviate from them. The best example today is the R8 V10 Plus. Let's say you recall the Dynamic profile, that will immediately put the transmission in S, open the exhaust flaps, set steering, engine/transmission and quattro system to their most dynamic setting. But then you have the option to close the exhaust flaps for example with the dedicate exhaust button on the steering wheel and/or you can decide to put the transmission back into D. The last recalled Drive Select profile is still Dynamic, but the exhaust and engine/transmission are not in their most dynamic setting anymore, because you manually overrode them via the direct control that the R8 provides. BMW Ms, have the M1 and M2 button and dedicated buttons for each component. So you can either manually set the steering, suspension, transmission etc. or you can store a profile to each of the M buttons and instantly recall them, but even after recalling a profile you can override it with the dedicated buttons. This is nothing unusual. A lot of applications in technology work this way. Such applications let you recall a certain configuration, but then you can manually override all or some of the settings.

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Also, there is certainly a difference between Dynamic Trans D, and Comfort Trans D. If what you are saying were true, there shouldn't be.
Yes, there is. In Dynamic Trans D, the steering, suspension etc., except engine/transmission are in Dynamic and in Comfort Trans D, the steering, suspension etc, including engine/transmission. are in Comfort.

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Just to add clarification, in manual shift mode in my '17 S3 it does indicate what gear I'm in (M1 thru M6). It just doesn't show the additional "S" like the R8 does. In regular D mode I don't see what gear it's in.
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Here is what the manual says. I would think if D always meant Comfort/Auto, and S always meant Dynamic, then it would be spelled out here and it isn't.

They did however point out that Engine sound settings change between subtle/sporty when changing from D to S.

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Originally Posted by s3burgh
Here is what the manual says. I would think if D always meant Comfort/Auto, and S always meant Dynamic, then it would be spelled out here and it isn't.

They did however point out that Engine sound settings change between subtle/sporty when changing from D to S.

I saw that they changed this table for the A3 and some other recent models, and I'm not yet sure what to make of it. In the real world, I have yet to feel a discernible difference between engine/transmission in Comfort D vs Auto D. Here is what the table used to look like for other Audi models. This particular one is from my RS5, but it's the same on other models. Both Comfort and Auto show Balanced for their characteristics. So, I'm not sure if they changed it because it was confusing to show the same characteristics for the two modes or if they indeed added an additional throttle map and shift program. I don't actually use Comfort mode very often and if I do, it's for cruising on the highway, so I have to go out and experiment with this again to see if there is a noticeable difference on newer models.
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I've yet to set anything to AUTO mode on my S3. I use individual and set everything to dynamic except the engine/transmission. Then it's just a matter of moving the gear select lever from D to S to be full dynamic. In addition to my APR ECU Stage 2 work, I also included the TCU upgrade. I now get to see what gear I'm in regardless of transmission mode. Very handy. Lately, I only use the manual mode and paddle shifters. Found some nice paddle shifter extensions which allow me to grab the paddles from pretty much any position my hands are on the wheel. With the TCU update, the standard D mode but in manual, works quite well. S mode and manual definitely kicks things up a notch however. Great for nice, open twisty roads. Have the winter wheels/tires on the car now and have to be more mindful however.
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Originally Posted by Fixeroh
I've yet to set anything to AUTO mode on my S3. I use individual and set everything to dynamic except the engine/transmission. Then it's just a matter of moving the gear select lever from D to S to be full dynamic. In addition to my APR ECU Stage 2 work, I also included the TCU upgrade. I now get to see what gear I'm in regardless of transmission mode. Very handy. Lately, I only use the manual mode and paddle shifters. Found some nice paddle shifter extensions which allow me to grab the paddles from pretty much any position my hands are on the wheel. With the TCU update, the standard D mode but in manual, works quite well. S mode and manual definitely kicks things up a notch however. Great for nice, open twisty roads. Have the winter wheels/tires on the car now and have to be more mindful however.
What TCU update are you referring to that let you see the gear you're in when the lever is in D? Is this from Audi?
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Originally Posted by XMetal00
What TCU update are you referring to that let you see the gear you're in when the lever is in D? Is this from Audi?
No, I believe it's from aftermarket tuning specialist APR, not Audi.
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Here's my question, I have all the individual settings set to Dynamic except Suspension and Engine/Trans. I have those set to Auto. I always put the car in S mode. What happens to those two settings that I have in Auto? Are they switched to dynamic when I put in S mode? So essentially I'm in individual mode, but when i put it in S, I'm really in dynamic? When I shift to S, the revs come up a bit and it definitely sounds a touch louder.
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Originally Posted by bipedcreature
Here's my question, I have all the individual settings set to Dynamic except Suspension and Engine/Trans. I have those set to Auto. I always put the car in S mode. What happens to those two settings that I have in Auto? Are they switched to dynamic when I put in S mode? So essentially I'm in individual mode, but when i put it in S, I'm really in dynamic? When I shift to S, the revs come up a bit and it definitely sounds a touch louder.
My "assumption" based on the chart (p. 142 in the manual) is that the Suspension and Engine/Trans. remains in Auto (Normal) while the Engine Sounds (exhaust) goes into sport mode. Other thoughts?


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