Coupe vs sportback
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wellll..... I actually just did that with a 2017 S3. It came in two weeks ago and never took it. They got my biz with a new A5 SB, here in Toronto the S3 will go in 2 seconds so no issue what so ever. Some people want a car NOW vs 3 month wait, that's why they kept the S3 - two sales really for them...
#12
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My goodness, I guess so. I sold luxury cars for years, and we don't order a car for someone with the intention of canceling. You order a car, you sign a purchase agreement and you leave a deposit....it's YOUR car, with the legal paperwork to prove it. You can't just walk away. Very weird way to do business.
Even in your case, it's not YOUR car until you actually pay for it. I'm pretty sure you would have a tough time legally challenging somebody who doesn't go through with the final purchase. At most, you may keep the deposit if your state allows that.
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#13
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Not to derail the thread, so I'll make this my last comment about this.....
I've special ordered a number of cars, and I certainly don't find it to be "pro-consumer" to think I can just walk about from a commitment I have made to buy something. Deposits here are usually thousands of dollars on a special-order car, and most certainly a dealer would keep the deposit if you decided to not uphold your end of a signed purchase agreement. I don't see how that's not being "pro-consumer", that's called honoring commitments you have made.
The entire argument of "oh, the dealer will sell my special order car anyways, so what does it matter if I don't buy it?" doesn't really hold much merit. A dealer has a certain amount of inventory coming in, and he's not looking to add to it. If ten people ordered cars and then don't buy, a dealer suddenly has ten unsold cars, and an inventory that is more bloated than normally managed. Imagine at the end of a model year where dealers are selling down the old models...unsold special order cars would very very detrimental to moving inventory. Special orders are often combinations of colors or options that are unique, and not wanted by the average buyer (if it was common, one would have been in stock). Often a limited-availaibitily (like an S3) means a dealer only gets a certain number in a model year. So if you special order a car and then don't take it guess what, the dealer can't re-order a replacement in the more standard color/feature content that is more desirable to sell. And if a prospective customer wants to buy said S3, but not in the color you spacial ordered, guess what....the dealer no longer can just place a new order, because the quantity of that model is controlled. So yeah, you not taking a special order is a pretty big deal to a lot of dealers in my area. As I stated, I helped control/order inventory for a luxury brand so this is not a consumer opinion...my opinion is coming from a previous inventory manager. Perhaps your market area is different, but know it's certainly not the normal buying process in many areas of the country.
Anyways, I'm getting the thread off track. Interesting conversation. Back to the Sportback/Coupe consideration opinions.
I've special ordered a number of cars, and I certainly don't find it to be "pro-consumer" to think I can just walk about from a commitment I have made to buy something. Deposits here are usually thousands of dollars on a special-order car, and most certainly a dealer would keep the deposit if you decided to not uphold your end of a signed purchase agreement. I don't see how that's not being "pro-consumer", that's called honoring commitments you have made.
The entire argument of "oh, the dealer will sell my special order car anyways, so what does it matter if I don't buy it?" doesn't really hold much merit. A dealer has a certain amount of inventory coming in, and he's not looking to add to it. If ten people ordered cars and then don't buy, a dealer suddenly has ten unsold cars, and an inventory that is more bloated than normally managed. Imagine at the end of a model year where dealers are selling down the old models...unsold special order cars would very very detrimental to moving inventory. Special orders are often combinations of colors or options that are unique, and not wanted by the average buyer (if it was common, one would have been in stock). Often a limited-availaibitily (like an S3) means a dealer only gets a certain number in a model year. So if you special order a car and then don't take it guess what, the dealer can't re-order a replacement in the more standard color/feature content that is more desirable to sell. And if a prospective customer wants to buy said S3, but not in the color you spacial ordered, guess what....the dealer no longer can just place a new order, because the quantity of that model is controlled. So yeah, you not taking a special order is a pretty big deal to a lot of dealers in my area. As I stated, I helped control/order inventory for a luxury brand so this is not a consumer opinion...my opinion is coming from a previous inventory manager. Perhaps your market area is different, but know it's certainly not the normal buying process in many areas of the country.
Anyways, I'm getting the thread off track. Interesting conversation. Back to the Sportback/Coupe consideration opinions.
Last edited by farmerjones; 03-02-2017 at 11:46 AM.
#15
AudiWorld Super User
Not to derail the thread, so I'll make this my last comment about this.....
I've special ordered a number of cars, and I certainly don't find it to be "pro-consumer" to think I can just walk about from a commitment I have made to buy something. Deposits here are usually thousands of dollars on a special-order car, and most certainly a dealer would keep the deposit if you decided to not uphold your end of a signed purchase agreement. I don't see how that's not being "pro-consumer", that's called honoring commitments you have made.
The entire argument of "oh, the dealer will sell my special order car anyways, so what does it matter if I don't buy it?" doesn't really hold much merit. A dealer has a certain amount of inventory coming in, and he's not looking to add to it. If ten people ordered cars and then don't buy, a dealer suddenly has ten unsold cars, and an inventory that is more bloated than normally managed. Imagine at the end of a model year where dealers are selling down the old models...unsold special order cars would very very detrimental to moving inventory. Special orders are often combinations of colors or options that are unique, and not wanted by the average buyer (if it was common, one would have been in stock). Often a limited-availaibitily (like an S3) means a dealer only gets a certain number in a model year. So if you special order a car and then don't take it guess what, the dealer can't re-order a replacement in the more standard color/feature content that is more desirable to sell. And if a prospective customer wants to buy said S3, but not in the color you spacial ordered, guess what....the dealer no longer can just place a new order, because the quantity of that model is controlled. So yeah, you not taking a special order is a pretty big deal to a lot of dealers in my area. As I stated, I helped control/order inventory for a luxury brand so this is not a consumer opinion...my opinion is coming from a previous inventory manager. Perhaps your market area is different, but know it's certainly not the normal buying process in many areas of the country.
Anyways, I'm getting the thread off track. Interesting conversation. Back to the Sportback/Coupe consideration opinions.
I've special ordered a number of cars, and I certainly don't find it to be "pro-consumer" to think I can just walk about from a commitment I have made to buy something. Deposits here are usually thousands of dollars on a special-order car, and most certainly a dealer would keep the deposit if you decided to not uphold your end of a signed purchase agreement. I don't see how that's not being "pro-consumer", that's called honoring commitments you have made.
The entire argument of "oh, the dealer will sell my special order car anyways, so what does it matter if I don't buy it?" doesn't really hold much merit. A dealer has a certain amount of inventory coming in, and he's not looking to add to it. If ten people ordered cars and then don't buy, a dealer suddenly has ten unsold cars, and an inventory that is more bloated than normally managed. Imagine at the end of a model year where dealers are selling down the old models...unsold special order cars would very very detrimental to moving inventory. Special orders are often combinations of colors or options that are unique, and not wanted by the average buyer (if it was common, one would have been in stock). Often a limited-availaibitily (like an S3) means a dealer only gets a certain number in a model year. So if you special order a car and then don't take it guess what, the dealer can't re-order a replacement in the more standard color/feature content that is more desirable to sell. And if a prospective customer wants to buy said S3, but not in the color you spacial ordered, guess what....the dealer no longer can just place a new order, because the quantity of that model is controlled. So yeah, you not taking a special order is a pretty big deal to a lot of dealers in my area. As I stated, I helped control/order inventory for a luxury brand so this is not a consumer opinion...my opinion is coming from a previous inventory manager. Perhaps your market area is different, but know it's certainly not the normal buying process in many areas of the country.
Anyways, I'm getting the thread off track. Interesting conversation. Back to the Sportback/Coupe consideration opinions.
#16
AudiWorld Super User
Not to derail the thread, so I'll make this my last comment about this.....
I've special ordered a number of cars, and I certainly don't find it to be "pro-consumer" to think I can just walk about from a commitment I have made to buy something. Deposits here are usually thousands of dollars on a special-order car, and most certainly a dealer would keep the deposit if you decided to not uphold your end of a signed purchase agreement. I don't see how that's not being "pro-consumer", that's called honoring commitments you have made.
The entire argument of "oh, the dealer will sell my special order car anyways, so what does it matter if I don't buy it?" doesn't really hold much merit. A dealer has a certain amount of inventory coming in, and he's not looking to add to it. If ten people ordered cars and then don't buy, a dealer suddenly has ten unsold cars, and an inventory that is more bloated than normally managed. Imagine at the end of a model year where dealers are selling down the old models...unsold special order cars would very very detrimental to moving inventory. Special orders are often combinations of colors or options that are unique, and not wanted by the average buyer (if it was common, one would have been in stock). Often a limited-availaibitily (like an S3) means a dealer only gets a certain number in a model year. So if you special order a car and then don't take it guess what, the dealer can't re-order a replacement in the more standard color/feature content that is more desirable to sell. And if a prospective customer wants to buy said S3, but not in the color you spacial ordered, guess what....the dealer no longer can just place a new order, because the quantity of that model is controlled. So yeah, you not taking a special order is a pretty big deal to a lot of dealers in my area. As I stated, I helped control/order inventory for a luxury brand so this is not a consumer opinion...my opinion is coming from a previous inventory manager. Perhaps your market area is different, but know it's certainly not the normal buying process in many areas of the country.
Anyways, I'm getting the thread off track. Interesting conversation. Back to the Sportback/Coupe consideration opinions.
I've special ordered a number of cars, and I certainly don't find it to be "pro-consumer" to think I can just walk about from a commitment I have made to buy something. Deposits here are usually thousands of dollars on a special-order car, and most certainly a dealer would keep the deposit if you decided to not uphold your end of a signed purchase agreement. I don't see how that's not being "pro-consumer", that's called honoring commitments you have made.
The entire argument of "oh, the dealer will sell my special order car anyways, so what does it matter if I don't buy it?" doesn't really hold much merit. A dealer has a certain amount of inventory coming in, and he's not looking to add to it. If ten people ordered cars and then don't buy, a dealer suddenly has ten unsold cars, and an inventory that is more bloated than normally managed. Imagine at the end of a model year where dealers are selling down the old models...unsold special order cars would very very detrimental to moving inventory. Special orders are often combinations of colors or options that are unique, and not wanted by the average buyer (if it was common, one would have been in stock). Often a limited-availaibitily (like an S3) means a dealer only gets a certain number in a model year. So if you special order a car and then don't take it guess what, the dealer can't re-order a replacement in the more standard color/feature content that is more desirable to sell. And if a prospective customer wants to buy said S3, but not in the color you spacial ordered, guess what....the dealer no longer can just place a new order, because the quantity of that model is controlled. So yeah, you not taking a special order is a pretty big deal to a lot of dealers in my area. As I stated, I helped control/order inventory for a luxury brand so this is not a consumer opinion...my opinion is coming from a previous inventory manager. Perhaps your market area is different, but know it's certainly not the normal buying process in many areas of the country.
Anyways, I'm getting the thread off track. Interesting conversation. Back to the Sportback/Coupe consideration opinions.
Back on track, I prefer the Sportback, both from a looks and practicality standpoint. If you want anyone to ride in the back seat they had better be Cirque du Soleil performers. Also, the trunk is shallow so nothing of any size will hang on the hooks.
Last edited by dseag2; 03-02-2017 at 07:07 PM.
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