I'm weird/old school about oil
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I'm weird/old school about oil
I know oil and oil changes have been discussed on various other threads. But my issue is this: It is so weird to not be able to pull a dipstick, visually check the oil level, and also get a visual on how the oil actually looks (and possibly feels!). Instead you have to trust the MMI that it's telling you the electronic truth. That's hard for me to get used to.
And I'm someone who always changed the oil at 1000 miles after the break-in period, and then religiously every 3000 miles thereafter. I get that oil is very different now, and I'm happy to not spend so much time and money doing it so often. But going 10,000 miles seems like a lot to me, especially given that I drive the car hard and rev it high on a daily basis. Might even track it occasionally. That's what cars are made for!
So on the break-in period - I've seen on other threads that there is some kind of crankcase additive put in at the factory that helps the break-in process. I wonder if doing a first oil change at say 5,000 miles is not a good idea for this reason. I guess I could get used to every 10,000 miles after that, but to go 10,000 until the VERY FIRST oil change, without even being able to SEE what the oil looks like - Yikes!
Sometimes I get the feeling this world has passed me by.
And I'm someone who always changed the oil at 1000 miles after the break-in period, and then religiously every 3000 miles thereafter. I get that oil is very different now, and I'm happy to not spend so much time and money doing it so often. But going 10,000 miles seems like a lot to me, especially given that I drive the car hard and rev it high on a daily basis. Might even track it occasionally. That's what cars are made for!
So on the break-in period - I've seen on other threads that there is some kind of crankcase additive put in at the factory that helps the break-in process. I wonder if doing a first oil change at say 5,000 miles is not a good idea for this reason. I guess I could get used to every 10,000 miles after that, but to go 10,000 until the VERY FIRST oil change, without even being able to SEE what the oil looks like - Yikes!
Sometimes I get the feeling this world has passed me by.
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I know oil and oil changes have been discussed on various other threads. But my issue is this: It is so weird to not be able to pull a dipstick, visually check the oil level, and also get a visual on how the oil actually looks (and possibly feels!). Instead you have to trust the MMI that it's telling you the electronic truth. That's hard for me to get used to.
And I'm someone who always changed the oil at 1000 miles after the break-in period, and then religiously every 3000 miles thereafter. I get that oil is very different now, and I'm happy to not spend so much time and money doing it so often. But going 10,000 miles seems like a lot to me, especially given that I drive the car hard and rev it high on a daily basis. Might even track it occasionally. That's what cars are made for!
So on the break-in period - I've seen on other threads that there is some kind of crankcase additive put in at the factory that helps the break-in process. I wonder if doing a first oil change at say 5,000 miles is not a good idea for this reason. I guess I could get used to every 10,000 miles after that, but to go 10,000 until the VERY FIRST oil change, without even being able to SEE what the oil looks like - Yikes!
Sometimes I get the feeling this world has passed me by...
And I'm someone who always changed the oil at 1000 miles after the break-in period, and then religiously every 3000 miles thereafter. I get that oil is very different now, and I'm happy to not spend so much time and money doing it so often. But going 10,000 miles seems like a lot to me, especially given that I drive the car hard and rev it high on a daily basis. Might even track it occasionally. That's what cars are made for!
So on the break-in period - I've seen on other threads that there is some kind of crankcase additive put in at the factory that helps the break-in process. I wonder if doing a first oil change at say 5,000 miles is not a good idea for this reason. I guess I could get used to every 10,000 miles after that, but to go 10,000 until the VERY FIRST oil change, without even being able to SEE what the oil looks like - Yikes!
Sometimes I get the feeling this world has passed me by...
What I do is change that right after break-in and then yearly after that, regardless of miles.
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Now to find a dipstick for the B9 S5.... As one who, like you, has trouble adjusting to trusting the MMI and one who will always do my own oil/filter changes, I'm going to see if there's a dipstick out there for the car.
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So on the break-in period - I've seen on other threads that there is some kind of crankcase additive put in at the factory that helps the break-in process. I wonder if doing a first oil change at say 5,000 miles is not a good idea for this reason. I guess I could get used to every 10,000 miles after that, but to go 10,000 until the VERY FIRST oil change, without even being able to SEE what the oil looks like - Yikes!
Sometimes I get the feeling this world has passed me by.
Sometimes I get the feeling this world has passed me by.
Fortunately for my car and yearly mileage, I get to change oil every 5,000 miles. I am for oil changes every 5,000 miles, too. There is definitely no harm in changing it more often than what is recommended by the factory. Clean oil is always beneficial to the engine and will help prolong its life. I do, however, believe and reliable sources say that modern technology and engine manufacturing techniques and capabilities no longer require that a car owner do the first oil change at 1,500 miles like back in the old, old days.
I also installed a factory dipstick in my B8.5 S5 simply for the reason that I needed a second opinion to the MMI's oil level indicator. I have read enough inconsistencies and faults with the electronic oil level sensor that I just decided to spend $15 to $20 for some peace of mind. What is disappointing is that Audi has resorted to using high-temp plastics to manufacture the dipstick. It works but you need to handle it with a bit more care than the steel equivalents. If you decide to buy a dipstick, I recommend spending a bit more for the steel version sold by aftermarket brands.
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I also installed a factory dipstick in my B8.5 S5 simply for the reason that I needed a second opinion to the MMI's oil level indicator. I have read enough inconsistencies and faults with the electronic oil level sensor that I just decided to spend $15 to $20 for some peace of mind. What is disappointing is that Audi has resorted to using high-temp plastics to manufacture the dipstick. It works but you need to handle it with a bit more care than the steel equivalents. If you decide to buy a dipstick, I recommend spending a bit more for the steel version sold by aftermarket brands.
Thanks. I would like to do this. But how did you install the dipstick? I don't see any kind of tube where is could be inserted. Of course there's the filler cap.
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Not sure about the B9 series engines and the dipstick tubes. I would assume there would be a tube for Audi dealers to use to siphon out the old oil like they do on the B8/8.5 series. I doubt if they are draining the oil through a drain plug in the oil pan like the old days. Best to wait for other B9 owners to chime in and help you identify the whereabouts of the dipstick tube.
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thracer:
Assuming you have a B9 S5, you first have to lift off the engine cover. Nothing special, it simply pulls upward. Underneath, near the center if the engine, you'll find the oil filter canister, it has what appears to be a large hex nut molded into its top. to its right and toward the front of the car a bit, you'll find the dipstick tube. In place of the dipstick is a squared off tabular plug that pulls straight up and out from the top of the tube. The plug has two o rings that provide the oil seal.
If anyone finds a good dipstick, please post part number, source, etc.
Assuming you have a B9 S5, you first have to lift off the engine cover. Nothing special, it simply pulls upward. Underneath, near the center if the engine, you'll find the oil filter canister, it has what appears to be a large hex nut molded into its top. to its right and toward the front of the car a bit, you'll find the dipstick tube. In place of the dipstick is a squared off tabular plug that pulls straight up and out from the top of the tube. The plug has two o rings that provide the oil seal.
If anyone finds a good dipstick, please post part number, source, etc.
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thracer:
Assuming you have a B9 S5, you first have to lift off the engine cover. Nothing special, it simply pulls upward. Underneath, near the center if the engine, you'll find the oil filter canister, it has what appears to be a large hex nut molded into its top. to its right and toward the front of the car a bit, you'll find the dipstick tube. In place of the dipstick is a squared off tabular plug that pulls straight up and out from the top of the tube. The plug has two o rings that provide the oil seal.
If anyone finds a good dipstick, please post part number, source, etc.
Assuming you have a B9 S5, you first have to lift off the engine cover. Nothing special, it simply pulls upward. Underneath, near the center if the engine, you'll find the oil filter canister, it has what appears to be a large hex nut molded into its top. to its right and toward the front of the car a bit, you'll find the dipstick tube. In place of the dipstick is a squared off tabular plug that pulls straight up and out from the top of the tube. The plug has two o rings that provide the oil seal.
If anyone finds a good dipstick, please post part number, source, etc.
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I doubt if there is a dipstick for the B9 series cars. How about this adjustable dipstick similar to what the Audi shop mechanics use:
Ask an Audi tech for the proper setting for your particular vehicle.
BTW, do any of the B9 engines (4 cylinder and V6) have a dipstick tube?
Ask an Audi tech for the proper setting for your particular vehicle.
BTW, do any of the B9 engines (4 cylinder and V6) have a dipstick tube?