Next generation A5 - coupe only? Sportback/convertible may be cut
03-27-2019, 03:08 PM
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Next generation A5 - coupe only? Sportback/convertible may be cut
This possibly according to Automobile's article on Audi's future. I've seen several articles expecting Audi to trim car models down due to rising investment costs.
https://www.automobilemag.com/news/a...uture-product/
Plus many electric models on the way...
https://www.automobilemag.com/news/a...uture-product/
On the provisional casualty list are the stillborn five-door A3 “coupe,” the three-door A1/S1, the A5 Sportback and convertible, the TT coupe and roadster, the R8, and the proposed A9. New arrivals include the A1 City Carver (it won’t be badged as an Allroad because it lacks AWD, but that’s what it is), the Q3 and Q5 Sportback “coupes,” replacements for the two-door A3 and A5 models, and a bunch of RS high-flyers.
- e-tron Sportback (early 2020); like most future e-tron versions, it will be available in three different battery and powertrain configurations.
- eQ3/Q3 e-tron (late 2020); an MEB-based compact SUV with a China-only long-wheelbase version.
- e-tron GT (2020); the production version of the 2018 L.A. show concept, mechanically twinned with the Porsche Taycan.
- e-tron GT shooting brake/Sportback (2021); a wagonoid variant on the above in the mold of the Taycan Sport Turismo.
- eQ2/Q2 e-tron (early 2021); internally known as A-SUVe, this one really ought to be called the eQ1 except that it’s one size bigger than the extant A1.
- eQ4/Q4 e-tron (late 2021); the “coupe” version of the eQ3.
- eQ5/Q5 e-tron (early 2022); SUV based on the PPE architecture and twinned with the electric Porsche Macan replacement, with the long-wheelbase version limited to China.
- e-tron GTR (2023); a two-seat evolution of Audi’s wild 2018 Pebble Beach concept, presumably based on Taycan architecture.
- eQ6/Q6 e-tron (mid-2023); this is the “coupe” version of the eQ5, and like that model will share its basis with the EV Macan replacement.
- eQ7/Q7 e-tron (2023); this will eventually supersede the first-generation e-tron and Q7 and be twinned with the 2024 successor to the current Porsche Cayenne.
- eQ9/Q9 e-tron (late 2023); an all-new full-size seven-seat flagship SUV “coupe” in the style of the current Q8.
- e4/A4 e-tron (post-2023); this model will be MEB-based and effectively be Audi’s Tesla Model 3 fighter. It’s expected to be available as a sedan and a wagon and/or five-door Sportback.
- e6/A6 e-tron (post-2023); PPE-based, the eA6 is expected to be available as a sedan and wagon.
- e8/A8 e-tron (post-2023); again, this is PPE-based and to be offered as a sedan and Avant wagon. It will be twinned with the 2025 Panamera EV.
03-27-2019, 03:19 PM
#2
AudiWorld Senior Member
Last I checked the SB outsells the coupe by something like 2-1 so...
03-27-2019, 05:31 PM
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AudiWorld Super User
The coupe is barely selling compared to the Sportback, so that would be a curious decision.
03-27-2019, 05:42 PM
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Oh yay. A bunch of electric **** no one wants. Great plan, VAG.
Electric **** is even about to infect the Porsche line.
Cue the "We don't understand why our sales are down" wailings in 3, 2, ....
Electric **** is even about to infect the Porsche line.
Cue the "We don't understand why our sales are down" wailings in 3, 2, ....
03-28-2019, 04:30 AM
#5
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This possibly according to Automobile's article on Audi's future. I've seen several articles expecting Audi to trim car models down due to rising investment costs.
https://www.automobilemag.com/news/a...uture-product/
Plus many electric models on the way...
https://www.automobilemag.com/news/a...uture-product/
Plus many electric models on the way...
- e4/A4 e-tron (post-2023); this model will be MEB-based and effectively be Audi’s Tesla Model 3 fighter. It’s expected to be available as a sedan and a wagon and/or five-door Sportback.
03-28-2019, 05:31 AM
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03-28-2019, 06:09 AM
#7
I would love it if they stopped selling the SB...makes mine even rarer. I can just picture the craigslist ad 10 years from now :”RARE 2018 A5 Sportback, only manufactured 2018/2019 model years. Asking $159,000 OBO.” Haha
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03-28-2019, 11:48 AM
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In some ways not dissimilar to the IC platforms; MQB, MLB Evo and MSB (which ended up only be used on the Panamera and Bentley saloon / coupés - MSB didn't scale). Whilst MQB is the "smaller" platform, it can scale up to the VW Atlas, and also the VW Arteon, which is bigger than an A5 (on MLB Evo).
I get the impression that MEB can also scale. What I don't know about is what are the differences between the VAG EV platforms. In the case of MQB/MLB/MSB it was down to engine and drive configurations - latitudinal vs longitudinal, FWD vs RWD vs AWD etc. None of this applies. Certainly within the PPE platform, the critical issue being addressed is sustained high speed running, and repeatable high performance runs. The first is really only relevant to Germany, but that is important to both Porsche and Audi. So the battery cooling infrastructure within the platform will be more critical for PPE than MEB. The other key difference is that some PPE models will use 3 motors (2 on the rear axle), which will never be needed on MEB.
The press release that Audi produced for the Q4 e-tron concept that was shown in Geneva did describe which models would be on which platform, but I find it unbelievable. It implies all Audi models between B and D segments will be on PPE, with only the A segment on MEB. The Euro NCAP car classification system is very vague, in some ways Mercedes's model naming strategy provides a better guideline as to what constitutes the size segment than anything else I have read. But I would not have called the Q4 e-tron an A segment car, yet it is on MEB?
Here is the press release in its entirety:
https://www.audi-mediacenter.com/en/...-concept-11364
And here is the relevant section:
Source: www.audi-mediacenter.com
03-28-2019, 11:54 AM
#9
I'm personally looking forward to my next car being an e-tron GT. Performance electric cars are mind-bendingly quick.
03-28-2019, 12:32 PM
#10
AudiWorld Senior Member
Seriously? The Model 3 is outselling the Audi B9 cars about 10:1 right now, and outsold the C-Class, A4, and 3-series combined in the US last year. If anything, VWAG is late to the party with electrification.
I'm personally looking forward to my next car being an e-tron GT. Performance electric cars are mind-bendingly quick.
I'm personally looking forward to my next car being an e-tron GT. Performance electric cars are mind-bendingly quick.