Cap Cost, Residual Percentage and Money Factor
#11
Didn't look at any lease deals, But one of the four Jag dealers in Houston is advertising an in-stock base, no options i-Pace at a $5K discount. With the TC, this brings the cost down to a number starting with "5". I had my first drive of an i-Pace when the cars first showed up in Houston about 6 mos ago. I consider it to be more of a "hot hatch", as compared to the swoopy crossover look of the e-Tron. The i-pace is a "personal" car IMO.
#12
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I just cancelled my reservation based on your prediction of 20k off. Hope you're right! With the tax credit that will bring my cost down to $60,000!
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#15
Like I said, there will be early adopters, no matter what the cost. And that is great for them. I was excited for this car, but Audi is significantly behind the curve with only a 200 mile range. Yes, Teslas are expensive to lease also, but you get significant performance and better range. The Audi looks great, we are all probably audi fans to begin with, but really its performance is just meh and the lease prices are ridiculous. When BMW put out the i3 it was not a great competitor to other EVs and they had to subsidize the lease deals, they were under 200 a month. I am NOT comparing the etron to the i3, what i am comparing is how both products were short of tesla on performance numbers and range. To buy this car is the burning half the value when you drive it off the lot. Tech changes so fast. imagine the 2020 etron having a 300 mile range and what that would do to the value of your car! Leasing only way to go with this car but really expensive.
#16
Like I said, there will be early adopters, no matter what the cost. And that is great for them. I was excited for this car, but Audi is significantly behind the curve with only a 200 mile range. Yes, Teslas are expensive to lease also, but you get significant performance and better range. The Audi looks great, we are all probably audi fans to begin with, but really its performance is just meh and the lease prices are ridiculous. When BMW put out the i3 it was not a great competitor to other EVs and they had to subsidize the lease deals, they were under 200 a month. I am NOT comparing the etron to the i3, what i am comparing is how both products were short of tesla on performance numbers and range. To buy this car is the burning half the value when you drive it off the lot. Tech changes so fast. imagine the 2020 etron having a 300 mile range and what that would do to the value of your car! Leasing only way to go with this car but really expensive.
#17
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Like I said, there will be early adopters, no matter what the cost. And that is great for them. I was excited for this car, but Audi is significantly behind the curve with only a 200 mile range. Yes, Teslas are expensive to lease also, but you get significant performance and better range. The Audi looks great, we are all probably audi fans to begin with, but really its performance is just meh and the lease prices are ridiculous.
The range "issue" is a whole separate matter. I'm still trying to unemotionally analyze that. If I lease, any negative implications are Audi's problem, not mine. I just have to be concerned with whether the range meets my personal needs. It does.
High lease rates due to low residuals are a fact of life for luxury vehicles, ICE or BEV.
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If you want maximum range, go Tesla. Period. Rivian is still vaporware, the legacy car makers are playing catch-up and it will take a while.
If you don't want Tesla, or you want the kind of interior & build quality that normally goes with a $70K+ car, then you're going to make tradeoffs. Period. By the way, I've never noticed that Audi, Mercedes et al were leaders in MPG either. They're not in the business of selling efficiency.
When I look at the legacy car makers, GM stands out for what they accomplished with the Bolt - and their total failure (or disinterest) to follow through in the rest of their line. (Nissan is in the game with the Leaf, and equally as bad at following through.) Audi is at least making announcements and spending marketing dollars like the e-tron is the first of many BEVs. None of this affects the value of the e-tron; I don't expect Audi to push upgrades once the car is sold, so I can't be disappointed.
#19
So much angst over so many unknown - cap cost, residual, MF, status milestones (production v. leaving plant v. en-route), and range among some of the most talked about - I think I'm just going to have to be patient until some of the unknowns become known.
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And I will be patiently awaiting with you.