Originally Posted by AudiA4B6US
(Post 25261517)
I have 4 dealers in driving distance and they all told me that there is no updates for my MMI that would fix the issues that I am seeing or would be assigned to my VIN. I got 4 MMI updates in my 2012 A6 C7 which was one of the reasons why I got my A4 B9 in March 2016 as one of the first. If I would have known that Audi NA is not providing updates anymore, I would not have bought a first year model.
AFAIK an early 2016 would have shipped with P0900 and the latest is P0942...(Roughly 1 update per year) what all was corrected within those versions I do not know. FWIW Lane Assist only works above 37 MPH to keep you in marked lanes so I am not sure how useful it is in a city environment. |
Originally Posted by sierraskier
(Post 25261729)
So just to make sure I understand - you work in the auto industry, most (if not all) auto manufacturers are running towards OTA as fast as they can, but you don't view it as important?
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Saw this in European Automotive news:
Audi demand Due to the strong demand for its e-tron SUV, Audi is also planning to increase the capacity of its Brussels, Belgium, plant in 2020, Automobilwoche has learned. The number of vehicles produced per hour is then due to rise to 24 from 20. “The demand for the e-tron is growing, so we continue to look at our production capacity and adjust it to the market situation where necessary,” Patrick Danau, managing director for Audi Brussels, told Automobilwoche. When necessary, every available calendar day is used to cover the demand, he said. The production ramp-up phase is now underway. At 20 cars per hour, Audi can build about 70,000 e-trons a year in a two-shift operation, assuming 220 production days. |
This video shows 1% to 100% in about 50 minutes. Far from an ideal charging situation to take up a battery that low and go all the way to 100%. Impressive especially at -1C.
Charge speed gets as high as 151kW and 650km(404 miles)/hour! |
These charge rate posts really deserve their own thread...
The charge rate is really impressive. We know that it can achieve 150kw at much lower SoC in warmer climates so its interesting to see it ramp up in the (somewhat) cold. Regardless, 68kw starting charge rate is fantastic! I bet you could do the Bjorn Nyland trick of a couple acceleration runs to heat the pack before plugging in to get the best initial charge rate. |
Originally Posted by GiftCard
(Post 25260918)
Just a quick point that by reserving an etron, there is no commitment to purchase. Your dealer can take delivery and if after sitting it or even taking a test drive, you get your $1,000 deposit back if you change your mind. The dealers won't mind as they will likely easily sell the etron to someone else.
When I first looked at the reservation process last Nov, I asked my local dealer, Audi Central Houston, how many reservations they had and what they expected their allocations to be. Doing the math, I concluded that their entire 2019 allocation was "reserved". Since I don't want a car until June 2020, I decided to wait a while before reserving--would've waited a little longer except for the possibility of a price increase. Which raises a question: Will Audi allocate cars according to reservation "number" and disregard allocations for individual dealers? If that's the case, a dealer may really want a reservation holder to decline to take the car, if they are adding "Additional Dealer Profit" for buyers without a reservation. I'm hoping that by 2020, Audi will be allowing European delivery. Europe, and particularly Germany, is getting a pretty good charging network. |
Originally Posted by alexlear
(Post 25272102)
These charge rate posts really deserve their own thread...
The charge rate is really impressive. We know that it can achieve 150kw at much lower SoC in warmer climates so its interesting to see it ramp up in the (somewhat) cold. Regardless, 68kw starting charge rate is fantastic! I bet you could do the Bjorn Nyland trick of a couple acceleration runs to heat the pack before plugging in to get the best initial charge rate. Have to give Bjorn credit, his videos have changed the way I look at range and charging figures. If Electrify America ramps up as they plan, I'll be "hammering it" between :30 stops. My wife will be even happier than she is in my "fossil" car. :) |
[QUOTE=Tom-ETRON;25261377]Agree with you, the E-tron charging curve looks terrific on the recent Fastned online post, it averaged 150 kW all the way to 75% SOC, which is about double the speed of a Tesla S or X from 50-80% SOC. Charging from 20-80% is usually the most often range I use on a road trip. Maybe 10-90% if I am pushing my luck.
As for OTA, E-Tron will not be as over the air configurable as say a Tesla. The architecture of the electronics will not allow that, but it should be delivered initially with 100% functionality, and updates to fix infotainment bugs should be able to be done through the telematics. Tesla often gets praise for their OTA updates, but often are just fixing big bugs, and adding functions that the hardware was installed in the car, but software not written at delivery. One example, my buddy got an early model 3, and the rear heated seats did not work for the first 4 months, then the control software was added and wow... they worked. People praise Tesla for this, but I look at it differently, I prefer the company finish the software development and ship me a car that has 100% functionality from day 1. Audi will not be adding 80's Atari games and fart sounds to E-Tron I am afraid. Actually VW ID products use a new electronic architecture that will be much more flexible OTA. You are missing fundamentals for understanding how software delivery and continuous deployments work in 21st century. Software is evolving all the tome with new features dded and improved almost continuously. Buying $100k and stating to have “100% functionality“ is childish statement. I want my car to be improved over time And its efficiency to be better. can u imagine i bought iPhone and you are stuck with version of software and apps at that time. No updates no new features? Imagine your etron be like that. I would never buy ev without clear manif vision And commitment for regular sw updates. And i dont have fait legacy car manif will have know/how to execute that. And etron platform is not even native ev. It is retrofit. So until these things are resolved, etron resale price will be low imho. |
Childish, is you insulting me... Now, I cannot think of any meaningful features that were added to my I-Phone this last year even though it has been updated OTA multiple times. Now, My E-Tron has had an update at the first service appointment that supposedly gave it more range, however I have always gotten well over the rated range, and really did not notice any difference. 5% here or there is hardly noticeable. I am sorry, but for me, I buy something based on what it is, and have no expectation for it to "improve" over time. In the 3-5 years I will own the E-Tron I just hope it keeps running perfectly as it has so far... That will make me happy. Car is quiet, and solid, and much more comfortable than any Tesla. It is also packed with features that are not available on any Tesla, and can't be upgraded with software. For example Tesla's interior suck, plain and simple. No HUD, No ventilated Massage Seats, No details LED lighting, No puddle lights, overall poor interior ergonomics for storage, I see Model Y finally got wireless charging, Speaking of the Y, have you seen they mechanism for lowering the center ski seat in the back? What is that rod sticking out to scratch your skis? Is that something that can be updated OTA? Can you name a meaningful feature Tesla added to their cars the last year?
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Originally Posted by Tom-ETRON
(Post 25487715)
Childish, is you insulting me... Now, I cannot think of any meaningful features that were added to my I-Phone this last year even though it has been updated OTA multiple times. Now, My E-Tron has had an update at the first service appointment that supposedly gave it more range, however I have always gotten well over the rated range, and really did not notice any difference. 5% here or there is hardly noticeable. I am sorry, but for me, I buy something based on what it is, and have no expectation for it to "improve" over time. In the 3-5 years I will own the E-Tron I just hope it keeps running perfectly as it has so far... That will make me happy. Car is quiet, and solid, and much more comfortable than any Tesla. It is also packed with features that are not available on any Tesla, and can't be upgraded with software. For example Tesla's interior suck, plain and simple. No HUD, No ventilated Massage Seats, No details LED lighting, No puddle lights, overall poor interior ergonomics for storage, I see Model Y finally got wireless charging, Speaking of the Y, have you seen they mechanism for lowering the center ski seat in the back? What is that rod sticking out to scratch your skis? Is that something that can be updated OTA? Can you name a meaningful feature Tesla added to their cars the last year?
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