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Old 04-04-2019, 05:12 PM
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If I were the Audi executives, I would make Electrify America charging free for life in exchange for these very poor EPA range estimates. They own the network and should use it to reward buyers of the vehicle. Tesla made a lot of loyal first adopters using that rationale. Get the vehicles on the road, make the owners happy and worry about range moving forward.
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Eh, probably better that people can use them and they're not clogged with people trying to justify a luxury car purchase.


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If I were the Audi executives, I would make Electrify America charging free for life in exchange for these very poor EPA range estimates. They own the network and should use it to reward buyers of the vehicle. Tesla made a lot of loyal first adopters using that rationale. Get the vehicles on the road, make the owners happy and worry about range moving forward.
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ABRP (abetterrouteplanner.com) will need to update their consumption values for the e-tron. The EPA figure represents a mixed driving consumption of 83.5kw/204miles (410wh/mi). However, I've been overriding the "alpha" default (377wh/mi) with a reference 65mph value of 425wh/mi. That's more consistent with the highway consumption we've seen from video reviews.

On a side note, the EPA MPGe (city/highway/combined) is 74/73/74 MPGe so you probably won't get any better range in town than on the highway.
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Actually, identical highway and city is best case. I don't need range in the city, and if city was compensating for even worse highway, that would have been bad.
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Originally Posted by alexlear
I'd reconsider a daily 100% charge. This will significantly degrade your battery faster. This isn't necessarily a 12% capacity buffer at the top end of the charge voltage. It could be split 6% bottom/6% top. If you're daily charging to above 4.0V per cell, it will degrade your battery faster.

Also, unless you have daily long range needs, 80% daily charge should be plenty of in-town range.
I'm not worried. My existing EVs with LG cells have lived above 4v 100% charge for approaching 10 years and 6 years. Very minimal degradation. I estimate over 6,000 cycles on my oldest. Today I drained it completely yet again and got 9.7 kwh 39 miles vs 9.8 kwh 40 miles brand new.

More important is tempreture, discharge rate and charge rate.

BTW the 12% buffer is by definition at the top end.

I appreciate your comment but find it misleading.
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Originally Posted by JmanMI6
If I were the Audi executives, I would make Electrify America charging free for life in exchange for these very poor EPA range estimates.
Sounds good to me. As it is now, Electrify America is going to make a lot of money from e-tron owners that need to charge past 80% to make it to the next station. Since the charge rate slows down past 80% and it's $/minute, they'll get more money per charge.
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Audi's preemptive strike released today....
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^^desperado
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Originally Posted by BestLife9798
https://youtu.be/13E9_P5yLgc


Audi's preemptive strike released today....
Interesting....... this tells me they knew it was not going to go down well and used a more favorable rating system in order to get people to pre-order the car. The day the EPA results come out and you just happen to have this nice little video ready to release as well.

Yes, I don’t do 200 miles in a day but the fact of the matter is you’re charging a premium for this car and then had down this lame *** mileage number. Audi should’ve studied Tesla’s battery tech more because this is a complete fail.
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Well, it's not really much of a premium though, right? Maybe a couple grand more than a comparable Q8? Especially after rebates.


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