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Francis Y. 05-10-2019 07:49 PM

GVWR?
 
To those who are lucky enough to already have their e trons, can you take a look at the door jamb label and see what the official GVWR is? For tax purposes, of course. :)

suttoni 05-10-2019 08:23 PM

Not much help for taxes other than the credit. Maximum depreciation for an SUV under 6,000 lbs. used 100% for business is $18,000. Over 6,000 lbs. it's $25,000. The e-tron is 5,489 lbs.

grssypond 05-10-2019 09:33 PM

The etron GVWR is 6200+#.....it rings the bell

Francis Y. 05-11-2019 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by suttoni (Post 25315049)
Not much help for taxes other than the credit. Maximum depreciation for an SUV under 6,000 lbs. used 100% for business is $18,000. Over 6,000 lbs. it's $25,000. The e-tron is 5,489 lbs.

This is not true. The maximum depreciation for vehicles with GVWR over 6,000 lbs. is 100% of the cost (if used 100% for business). The $25k you mention is the limit on section 179 deductions for vehicles, which wouldn't be useful anyway if you're going to write off the entire cost of the vehicle with bonus depreciation.

https://www.mileiq.com/blog/section-...les-deduction/

I have not seen the GVWR of the e tron posted anywhere, but on Audi's media website there is a technical datasheet that listed it as 6900 lbs. That was current as of January 2019, but probably for the European model.

theo1000 05-11-2019 05:15 AM

Hmm! Good point.

Normally i write off the mileage but 100% depreciation maybe a huge advantage.

Are we confirmed at over 6000?

mjeaton 05-11-2019 05:13 PM

I just checked my E1... it is 6,978

Francis Y. 05-11-2019 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by mjeaton (Post 25315366)
I just checked my E1... it is 6,978

Thanks!

suttoni 05-14-2019 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Francis Y. (Post 25315109)
This is not true. The maximum depreciation for vehicles with GVWR over 6,000 lbs. is 100% of the cost (if used 100% for business).....
I have not seen the GVWR of the e tron posted anywhere, but on Audi's media website there is a technical datasheet that listed it as 6900 lbs. ....

Yes, OK you are right on the weight. I picked up the 5,490 lbs. from the e-Tron's published weight unloaded & without a driver. The 6,901 lbs. is the GVWR.

However - there are two roadblocks here.
1. If you noticed in the article you quoted, a qualifying SUV over 6,000 lbs must be built on a truck chassis. Is e-Tron based on a truck?
2. The bigger tax issue is trying to claim a 100% writeoff of an $80,000 car as being "ordinary and necessary" under IR Code section 162. That section also requires business expenses to be reasonable. This would be difficult to prove with the e-Tron in virtually every business scenario. The writeoff would probably be limited to the price of a similar sized SUV over 6,000 lb. based on a truck chassis which was in a non-luxury price range.

Francis Y. 05-14-2019 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by suttoni (Post 25316733)
Yes, OK you are right on the weight. I picked up the 5,490 lbs. from the e-Tron's published weight unloaded & without a driver. The 6,901 lbs. is the GVWR.

However - there are two roadblocks here.
1. If you noticed in the article you quoted, a qualifying SUV over 6,000 lbs must be built on a truck chassis. Is e-Tron based on a truck?
2. The bigger tax issue is trying to claim a 100% writeoff of an $80,000 car as being "ordinary and necessary" under IR Code section 162. That section also requires business expenses to be reasonable. This would be difficult to prove with the e-Tron in virtually every business scenario. The writeoff would probably be limited to the price of a similar sized SUV over 6,000 lb. based on a truck chassis which was in a non-luxury price range.

I do not believe the IRS actually makes that distinction. Look at this website:

https://www.watsoncpagroup.com/secti...iness-vehicle/

That CPA group does not describe the vehicle as being required to have a "truck chassis". Also, multiple websites list the Audi Q7 as a qualified vehicle and Audi does not build them on a truck chassis, do they? As to your second point, it is debatable. Basically, I'm not giving any tax advice (obviously), so YMMV.


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