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Old Apr 27, 2023 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by peterolsovsky
Stupid question, but how do you pre-condition battery?
E-tron battery only conditions while parked. If parked an plugged in it will run a complete battery preconditioning routine using the charge timer as a departure timer. Both battery and cabin will be at ideal (battery) and desired (cabin) temperatures.

Preconditioning control is on the app.

If not plugged in charging and you use the precondition, the cabin will be the primary target of the preconditioning, however the battery will use the cabin services to attempt to precondition as well.

The e-tron does not use en route preconditioning, but really does not need to because of a very sophisticated temperature management system and a very large percentage of Cobalt in the battery.
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Old Apr 27, 2023 | 04:56 AM
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Well here is what Chat GPT has to say about the e-tron range and how to get more out of it :-)

Q: why audi e-tron has short range

There are several factors that can contribute to the Audi e-tron's relatively short range compared to other electric vehicles on the market:

1. Battery size: The Audi e-tron's battery pack has a total capacity of 95 kWh, which is relatively large but still smaller than some of its competitors such as the Tesla Model X and the Lucid Air. A larger battery pack can provide more range.

2. Weight: The e-tron is a heavy SUV, weighing over 5,600 lbs. The heavier a vehicle is, the more energy it requires to move, which can reduce its range.

3. Aerodynamics: The e-tron's boxy shape and large frontal area make it less aerodynamic than some of its sleeker competitors, such as the Tesla Model X or the Jaguar I-PACE. Improved aerodynamics can reduce energy consumption and improve range.

4. Efficiency: The e-tron's electric drivetrain and regenerative braking system are not as efficient as some of its competitors. This can result in more energy being lost during driving and braking, which reduces range.

Overall, while the Audi e-tron's range may be shorter than some of its competitors, it still provides a respectable range of up to 222 miles on a single charge, which is more than enough for most daily driving needs.

Q: how to maximize audi e-tron range

There are several steps you can take to maximize the range of your Audi e-tron:

1. Drive efficiently: One of the best ways to maximize your range is to drive efficiently. This means avoiding aggressive acceleration and braking, maintaining a consistent speed, and using cruise control on the highway. Also, try to avoid unnecessary use of climate control and other power-consuming features.

2. Use regenerative braking: The Audi e-tron has a regenerative braking system that can help recharge the battery while driving. This means that when you apply the brakes, the kinetic energy of the vehicle is converted into electricity and stored in the battery. To maximize the benefit of regenerative braking, try to anticipate stops and use the regenerative braking system instead of the brakes whenever possible.

3. Monitor your energy usage: The e-tron's infotainment system provides real-time information about energy usage and estimated range. Use this information to adjust your driving style and minimize energy consumption. For example, if you see that the climate control is using a lot of energy, try turning it down or turning it off.

4. Charge regularly: To maximize your range, make sure to keep the battery charged as much as possible. Try to charge the vehicle overnight or during periods of low energy demand to take advantage of lower electricity rates.

5. Use the eco mode: The Audi e-tron has an "Efficiency" mode that can help maximize range by adjusting the vehicle's power usage and performance. In this mode, the vehicle's acceleration is limited, and the climate control and other power-consuming features are optimized for efficiency.

By following these tips, you can maximize the range of your Audi e-tron and get the most out of your electric driving experience.
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Old Apr 27, 2023 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by A4 Phil
I use my '19 like an ICE. Drive it every day with full HVAC, lots of people a pet. We road trip it regularly. I plan on 170 mile legs at five over the highway speed limit. A little less mileage is easy, a little more mileage and I have to charge to 100%. But one thing I did discover a year or so ago, is that if you ever start feeling uncomfortable about making your destination, you can switch to eco mode and the car just starts clawing back mileage. But I don't like doing my everyday driving there (at eco mode), so I just plan on 170 miles and drive it like I want to. Do I wish the car got 300 miles, of course, but I love it.
Around town I really don't care about efficiency but on the road trip I like to minimize number of charging stops. On our first road trip in the car from DC to Philly I wanted to see how much practical range I can get with the car so I drove efficiently on the way up there and there was more traffic anyways so I took it easy - we got 3.1 miles per kWh to cover 173 miles with 27% of battery remaining at the end of the first leg and average speed of 54 mph. Once I knew car can do the trip back without stopping I drove without thinking about efficiency much and there was much less traffic so we ended up getting 2.8 miles per kWh to cover 169 miles with 14 % of battery remaining and 10mph higher average speed @ 64 mph. So yes this car can still do up to 240 miles on the open road trip per charge in moderate weather @77F. I do drive in efficiency mode and inflate my tires 2-3psi above door sticker (for EVs tires consume about 16 percent of vehicle energy loses which ultimately impacts how far you can drive)

I think problem is most people don't understand the relationship between the way they drive, efficiency they get as a result and how that translates into range.

it is rather simple formula for any given trip: ballpark range = battery state of charge (in kWH = 86 x SOC) X your short term efficiency (in miles per kWh)

other things that play into this are battery degradation, temperature, tire pressures/rolling resistance, HVAC use/temp preferences

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Old Apr 27, 2023 | 10:40 AM
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nadrealista; What wheel size are you running?
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Old Apr 27, 2023 | 11:02 AM
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How in the hell are you folks getting this kind of efficiency? My 2022 is pretty much always in the 2.0-2.3 mi/kWh range unless I'm driving downhill. And, no, I don't drive fast with the AC set at 60 degrees.

I never get the advertised 222 miles of range. Never.
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Old Apr 27, 2023 | 11:19 AM
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I get 2.4 mi/kwh if I drive mostly highway at 80mph most of the time.
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Old Apr 27, 2023 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill33525
nadrealista; What wheel size are you running?
20" inflated to 2-3 psi above door sticker cold pressure recommendations
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Old Apr 27, 2023 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by coldrain85
How in the hell are you folks getting this kind of efficiency? My 2022 is pretty much always in the 2.0-2.3 mi/kWh range unless I'm driving downhill. And, no, I don't drive fast with the AC set at 60 degrees.

I never get the advertised 222 miles of range. Never.
are you on 21" wheels?
your tire pressures?
efficiency driving mode?
and most importantly how fast are you driving? on my road trip above I was driving between 60 and 75 mph most of the time traffic depending.

yes you can drive faster but you lose more time charging than you gain by driving 5-10 mph faster

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Old Apr 27, 2023 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by etron4ever
I get 2.4 mi/kwh if I drive mostly highway at 80mph most of the time.
this, speed kills range



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Old Apr 27, 2023 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nadrealista
20" inflated to 2-3 psi above door sticker cold pressure recommendations
20" wheels slightly over inflated helps. The tires may be a little thinner than the 21" factory tires.
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