Opinions on waxes with petroleum distillates?
11-20-2001, 10:05 PM
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Opinions on waxes with petroleum distillates?
I just used Megiuar's Gold Class paste wax over the last weekend to get some winter protection on. It claims it's safe for clear coats, but also has petroleum distillates in it. I assume this is safe for the paint, since the application went very smoothly and gave me a deep, rich shine. But will this adversely effect the duration of the wax? Or maybe I should be worried about some long-term clear coat damage(although I doubt it)?
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11-21-2001, 02:15 PM
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This article is pretty interesting.
It describes petroleum distillates in detail, and in plain english.<ul><li><a href="http://www.protectall.com/dean.htm">http://www.protectall.com/dean.htm</a</li></ul>
11-21-2001, 02:24 PM
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Yet more information
Taken from CarCrazy.net
A good coat of wax is essential for the protection of your cars surfaces. It creates a barrier against UV and infrared rays,
makes cleaning so much easier not to mention the nice shiny luster which we all desire. There are many types of waxes on the market today. We prefer a non-petroleum carnauba wax, as carnauba
has an ability to fill and efface minor scratching as well as give your car that deep shiny luster that separates you from the
rest. Walk into any conventional auto parts store will show you that there are many waxes out there claiming to be carnauba but
unfortunately, there is no government regulations that requires those manufacturers to tell you exactly how much and what type
of carnauba wax is in those products. Also, many of these products contains petroleum distillates. These are not helpful to many
of today's paints. Petroleum distillates are an easy and inexpensive carrying and emulsifying agent for the wax but actually prevent
the carnauba from achieving its full effect. There is also no such thing as a pure carnauba wax. Carnauba, in its pure form is
rock hard. It has to be emulsified. Your best carnauba waxes contain between 20% and 50% carnauba in combination with natural
oils and brightening agents. When using carnauba waxes with natural oils as the carrying agent they adhere to paint immediately
and should not be left to dry but rather be taken up promptly. It also will not leave the annoying white residual powder the
gets all over everything. Furthermore, despite the additional expense of the high quality carnauba it's economically better
because you are using a very thin film, as carnauba is hyposcopic.
There are also many synthetic waxes and synthetic/carnauba wax combinations on the market. Some of which will achieve a very nice
result. Synthetic waxes are primarily silicon and polymers and while they will enjoy a greater life span on your car, they have
a tendency to reflect scratches rather than efface them.
Most synthetic waxes are much quicker to use and what many detailing enthusiasts will do is follow up their pre-cleaning process with a coat of synthetic wax and then follow that with a coat of carnauba. That is an ideal way but can become quite time consuming!
A good coat of wax is essential for the protection of your cars surfaces. It creates a barrier against UV and infrared rays,
makes cleaning so much easier not to mention the nice shiny luster which we all desire. There are many types of waxes on the market today. We prefer a non-petroleum carnauba wax, as carnauba
has an ability to fill and efface minor scratching as well as give your car that deep shiny luster that separates you from the
rest. Walk into any conventional auto parts store will show you that there are many waxes out there claiming to be carnauba but
unfortunately, there is no government regulations that requires those manufacturers to tell you exactly how much and what type
of carnauba wax is in those products. Also, many of these products contains petroleum distillates. These are not helpful to many
of today's paints. Petroleum distillates are an easy and inexpensive carrying and emulsifying agent for the wax but actually prevent
the carnauba from achieving its full effect. There is also no such thing as a pure carnauba wax. Carnauba, in its pure form is
rock hard. It has to be emulsified. Your best carnauba waxes contain between 20% and 50% carnauba in combination with natural
oils and brightening agents. When using carnauba waxes with natural oils as the carrying agent they adhere to paint immediately
and should not be left to dry but rather be taken up promptly. It also will not leave the annoying white residual powder the
gets all over everything. Furthermore, despite the additional expense of the high quality carnauba it's economically better
because you are using a very thin film, as carnauba is hyposcopic.
There are also many synthetic waxes and synthetic/carnauba wax combinations on the market. Some of which will achieve a very nice
result. Synthetic waxes are primarily silicon and polymers and while they will enjoy a greater life span on your car, they have
a tendency to reflect scratches rather than efface them.
Most synthetic waxes are much quicker to use and what many detailing enthusiasts will do is follow up their pre-cleaning process with a coat of synthetic wax and then follow that with a coat of carnauba. That is an ideal way but can become quite time consuming!
11-21-2001, 07:01 PM
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Hrmm.. those two seem to disagree with each other.
The second says "These are not helpful to many
of today's paints," but doesn't really explain why or how. This makes me think it may be more of a personal opinion matter. The first source says petroleum distillates are pretty much unavoidable in car waxes, unless you go you specifically looking for one without them. I'm going to assume that it's a parafinnic distillate in the Gold Class wax because it's not a solvent or cleaner wax. The first artical seems to be more grounded in fact than opinion, so I'm going to assume that this wax isn't doing anything bad for my finish. Thanks a lot, MikekiM.
of today's paints," but doesn't really explain why or how. This makes me think it may be more of a personal opinion matter. The first source says petroleum distillates are pretty much unavoidable in car waxes, unless you go you specifically looking for one without them. I'm going to assume that it's a parafinnic distillate in the Gold Class wax because it's not a solvent or cleaner wax. The first artical seems to be more grounded in fact than opinion, so I'm going to assume that this wax isn't doing anything bad for my finish. Thanks a lot, MikekiM.
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