), how do you find it so?
display mode options (linear, threaded, etc) doesn't work...
AudiWorld Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,605
Likes: 0
This is what I posted a a few posts back:
No No No....You STILL don't get it. The overwhelming majority of AWers are not her to "use the software" so to speak. We're not interested in "what the software can do". We just want a friendly, personable forum where we can feel connected. You're missing out on what made the former AW great. It wasn't about "features" and "programmability". It was about the people. KAWF made it easy for people to connect intimately and almost in real time, on the internet. That's a rare feat in this world of impersonal and sterile (and same) web forums.
No No No....You STILL don't get it. The overwhelming majority of AWers are not her to "use the software" so to speak. We're not interested in "what the software can do". We just want a friendly, personable forum where we can feel connected. You're missing out on what made the former AW great. It wasn't about "features" and "programmability". It was about the people. KAWF made it easy for people to connect intimately and almost in real time, on the internet. That's a rare feat in this world of impersonal and sterile (and same) web forums.
AudiWorld Super User
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,442
Likes: 0
From: Fourth Circle
I don't think my opinions stray from the mainstream, but I admit I find it rather surprising that vB, the bestest software on the intertube, can't handle a threaded view for a large forum such as this.
Obviously IB isn't interested in investing the resources to add new or improved functionality. They tried with what they were willing to commit, and they failed. I can't say I should expect much more from them.
Obviously IB isn't interested in investing the resources to add new or improved functionality. They tried with what they were willing to commit, and they failed. I can't say I should expect much more from them.
Member
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 48,508
Likes: 1
So you're saying you 'upgraded' the software to something that couldn't handle what the old site could? huh?
Exactly. Every other forum out there is the same, yet people continued to come to AW. why? it wasn't because they were 'limited' with the software, it was because the community was among the best.
Exactly. Every other forum out there is the same, yet people continued to come to AW. why? it wasn't because they were 'limited' with the software, it was because the community was among the best.
It may be the best forum software out there but IMO AW has now lost much of its "sense of community", and that was what made this forum THE BEST. This new format is slow, has less desirable features, and is cold and sterile. I still believe in the community, but it's not the same. Sad day.
AudiWorld Super User
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 4,961
Likes: 0
I thought the original intention communicated by JET was to retain some of that threaded functionality that was so important to AW users. Regardless, I can understand how it was technically impossible to implement in vB given the constraints, but your last comment just has my head spinning. It might be 80% better than kawf in the areas that don't count, but kawf was 100% better in usability (yeah, that counts)! If IB doesn't see this, bookmark this post and give it to someone when they wonder why traffic and ad revenue dropped.
AudiWorld Super User
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 4,537
Likes: 0
This is what happens when you let engineers decide on how things work with out taking in to account user interaction. The self moderation tools and functions of VB I'm sure are great, and make the administrators happy because they don't have to manage it as much. But it ruined the conversational communication and flow that is more like real life communication. Look at gmail, a conversational email system. How cool is that!
This is a huge step backwards. Just for the ease of backend management. You'll lose significant users and traffic from this change. Your loss in the end IB.
This is a huge step backwards. Just for the ease of backend management. You'll lose significant users and traffic from this change. Your loss in the end IB.
AudiWorld Super User
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,442
Likes: 0
From: Fourth Circle
I wish there was a way to get rid of all the useless information on screen to just view user name and post.
AudiWorld Stories
Bringing Audi to Life for Audi Fans
The Highs & Lows of Every Audi C-Class Generation
Joe Kucinski
Top 10 Most Expensive Audis Ever Sold on Bring-A-Trailer
Brett Foote
10 Audi Features & Options We Miss the Most!
Joe Kucinski
Audi Recreates Crazy-Looking Speed Record Breaker From 1935
Verdad Gallardo
Coachbuilder Recreates the 1995 Audi TTS Concept
Verdad Gallardo
Every Audi V10 Car Ranked!
Joe Kucinski
9 Audi Designs That Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
2026 Audi Q5 Buyer's Guide (Every Model Explained)
Brett Foote
Ranking Every Current Audi 'S' Model From Worst to First!
Joe Kucinski
Member
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 38,950
Likes: 0
I really wasn't to worried about this switch until I realized threaded mode won't work. Linear is terrible. I really want to like this, but after 9 years on AW I'm not sure I can take this....to hard to read and follow. If VB is so great and Kawf is an old pile of crap why can't VB handle threaded mode? Take some of those IB big bucks and fix it.
Member
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
It can - it can't handle it in a threaded view format.Not disagreeing with you there at all.
We certainly didn't upgrade the site because we had intentions to **** off some people.
It was upgraded because kawf hasn't been updated in 10years, and vbulletin is far and away the best forum software out there (I believe its utilized by about 70% of all forums in existence off the top of my head)
We certainly didn't upgrade the site because we had intentions to **** off some people.
It was upgraded because kawf hasn't been updated in 10years, and vbulletin is far and away the best forum software out there (I believe its utilized by about 70% of all forums in existence off the top of my head)
It is with the utmost respect that I ask IB Adrian to please explain why this incongruity exists and what his plan is to retain membership / satisfy members.
This is incredibly poor publicity for Internet Brands.
Last edited by YYC_A4; Mar 16, 2009 at 10:29 PM.