Looking into garage heaters... what says AWMA?
12-10-2008, 10:33 AM
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Looking into garage heaters... what says AWMA?
Ceiling mount... could put it in the center of the ceiling...
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&it em=110323502198">Fahrenheat Infrared WorkShop Heater Model #FRR10512B</a>
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&it em=250339875322">Philips Designers Edge 1200 Watt Patio & Garage Heater</a>
Or a propane bottle mounted one...
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&it em=150314834493">MR HEATER HEATER MODEL 12T FOR 20LB PROPANE
BOTTLE</a>
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&it em=170286114253">ICE FISHING / EVENT PORTABLE PROPANE HEATER 9" DISH</a>
Regular price for these is <a href="http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053&productId=10065219 7">$47 from HomeDepot</a>...
What do you think is better.. no refills needed for the electric ones.
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&it em=110323502198">Fahrenheat Infrared WorkShop Heater Model #FRR10512B</a>
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&it em=250339875322">Philips Designers Edge 1200 Watt Patio & Garage Heater</a>
Or a propane bottle mounted one...
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&it em=150314834493">MR HEATER HEATER MODEL 12T FOR 20LB PROPANE
BOTTLE</a>
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&it em=170286114253">ICE FISHING / EVENT PORTABLE PROPANE HEATER 9" DISH</a>
Regular price for these is <a href="http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053&productId=10065219 7">$47 from HomeDepot</a>...
What do you think is better.. no refills needed for the electric ones.
12-10-2008, 10:52 AM
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Skip the propane bottle mounted one. Not enough heat. I'm using something similar to
this and it heats up my 2 car garage in no time. It's painted orange and bought it at home depot.<ul><li><a href="http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=154996-88644-RMC-FA50C&lpage=none">http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=154996-88644-RMC-FA50C&lpage=none</a</li></ul>
12-10-2008, 10:56 AM
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There is a benefit to forced air heat versus the radiant ones. If you're not in the line of sight..
... on the radiant heaters, you might not even know it's working. (E.g. if you're under the car.)
12-10-2008, 10:57 AM
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Yeah, Jim has a bigger one for the big garage... I'm trying to save floor space though...
Mounting on one the ceiling would be ideal... I've used the bottle burner ones in the past... they work well enough for me, just hate paying for refills every week.
12-10-2008, 11:23 AM
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electric element is like the most inefficient heating method...
I suspect you may pay more in electric bill than propane refill.
I had 1 of those Mr Heater unit before. 1 tank lasted me thru the winter. Tho it heavily depends on the size (volume wise) of the garage. I found it provides heat via both radiant & convective heat transfer.
In addition to the radiant heat as Greg pointed out, it also provides a lot of convective heating of the surrounding air. Put you hand 3 ft above one, and you can feel the amount of heat generated. Unfortunately, all those hot air immediately rais to the ceiling... so a fan to circulate the air around the garage really helps too.
Of course, if you got a big poorly insulated garage with tall ceilings... it's going to take a lot of energy to keep it heated up. I found the lowest setting on the heater was sufficient, and it warmed the garage from ~30deg's up to 50~60deg's. Comfortable enough for me.
Exhaust gas-wise, propane burns VERY clean. I had a plug-in CO detector in an outlet 3~4 ft off the ground, the thing registered ZERO the whole time with the propane heater. It got me wondering if the detector was even working... Start up the car, and within 30 sec, the detector immediately started registering CO levels.
The other benefit of Mr Heater... come summer time, the only part you have to store is the smallish heater, and the propane tank gets returned to grill duty.
I had 1 of those Mr Heater unit before. 1 tank lasted me thru the winter. Tho it heavily depends on the size (volume wise) of the garage. I found it provides heat via both radiant & convective heat transfer.
In addition to the radiant heat as Greg pointed out, it also provides a lot of convective heating of the surrounding air. Put you hand 3 ft above one, and you can feel the amount of heat generated. Unfortunately, all those hot air immediately rais to the ceiling... so a fan to circulate the air around the garage really helps too.
Of course, if you got a big poorly insulated garage with tall ceilings... it's going to take a lot of energy to keep it heated up. I found the lowest setting on the heater was sufficient, and it warmed the garage from ~30deg's up to 50~60deg's. Comfortable enough for me.
Exhaust gas-wise, propane burns VERY clean. I had a plug-in CO detector in an outlet 3~4 ft off the ground, the thing registered ZERO the whole time with the propane heater. It got me wondering if the detector was even working... Start up the car, and within 30 sec, the detector immediately started registering CO levels.
The other benefit of Mr Heater... come summer time, the only part you have to store is the smallish heater, and the propane tank gets returned to grill duty.
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12-10-2008, 11:34 AM
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I just rely on extra layers and occasional trips inside to thaw my hands ;)
but then again, I had to do a lot of the work I've done w/ the garage door open.
Other times I just leave the door open to the garage to warm things up.
I'd say those infared jobbies don't have the ***** to heat up a big garage. We have one at my folks house and it's basically like pissing in the wind. It does the job eventually, but by the time it heats up the garage, you're done with what you need to do.
My brother picked up one of the big propane "jets." That thing has the garage heated to the point you're sweating in about 10 min (3 car garage).
Other times I just leave the door open to the garage to warm things up.
I'd say those infared jobbies don't have the ***** to heat up a big garage. We have one at my folks house and it's basically like pissing in the wind. It does the job eventually, but by the time it heats up the garage, you're done with what you need to do.
My brother picked up one of the big propane "jets." That thing has the garage heated to the point you're sweating in about 10 min (3 car garage).
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true. But just exercise same due caution as a gas stove...
and it should be fine. The heating mesh element will not get blown out like a flame would, so that shouldn't be an issue. (there's no 'flame')
On the flip side, an electric circuit carrying a lot of current will def heat up nice 'n hot... Hopefully it won't cause fires (inaccessibly, behind dry walls, where wires usually reside) before the circuit breaker kicks in to do its job.
On the flip side, an electric circuit carrying a lot of current will def heat up nice 'n hot... Hopefully it won't cause fires (inaccessibly, behind dry walls, where wires usually reside) before the circuit breaker kicks in to do its job.