Which clutch of these three would you recommend most?
06-12-2004, 09:05 PM
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Which clutch of these three would you recommend most?
I am aiming for about 300 WHP, but don't know if/when I will see it. I am probably going to end up using Pro Tuner Se if/when it comes out. So, any comments or suggestions if I have access to these three clutches:
1) WOA Stage 2+ - I bought it from BigNipper, but I just found a couple other good deals, so I am looking into them, but this would be the easiest/least hassles. Used about 3000 miles
2) Spec Stage 2 - Heard all sorts of different numbers, but Europeanspeed claims its good for 500hp/385tq - Brand new
3) Southbend DXD - Brand new, seems to be the best as far as power holding ability - any thoughts?
I know it is kind of hard, because I'm not sure I am comparing apples to apples, but am I gonna blow out one of the first two with a T3/T4B @ 20ish PSI?
Thanks for the advice (as always)
Steven
1) WOA Stage 2+ - I bought it from BigNipper, but I just found a couple other good deals, so I am looking into them, but this would be the easiest/least hassles. Used about 3000 miles
2) Spec Stage 2 - Heard all sorts of different numbers, but Europeanspeed claims its good for 500hp/385tq - Brand new
3) Southbend DXD - Brand new, seems to be the best as far as power holding ability - any thoughts?
I know it is kind of hard, because I'm not sure I am comparing apples to apples, but am I gonna blow out one of the first two with a T3/T4B @ 20ish PSI?
Thanks for the advice (as always)
Steven
06-14-2004, 01:01 PM
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Thats odd because there have been plenty of people without issues
with WOA and now look at all the "HORROR" stories about the other clutch companies too. My WOA stage 1+ was great holding 330+ hp/tq on 6000 rpm launchs. My WOA stage 3+ was holding fine till this weekend but then I dont think it was made to hold the power I am making now and to think this is not going to be any where near the hp I plan on pulling out of this setup.
06-14-2004, 01:04 PM
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WOA pretty much only makes the stage 3 or stage 4. He also makes a 12 lbs flywheel
for those setups. I have to talk to him about making something higher, more like a stage 5 or stage 6 since my stage 3+ wont hold even 4th gear at the drags.
06-14-2004, 04:26 PM
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You can add me to the list of people who had problems...
I am a fairly easy going driver, I broke in the clutch properly, only did a handful of launches and it still only lasted about 5000 miles. It started slipping so bad that I couldn't go more than 40% throttle in any gear. I have heard that there was a bad batch of clutches and I might have gotten one. I then went with the Spec 3 clutch/flywheel and it's going good...it's still fairly new so only time will tell.
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06-14-2004, 05:36 PM
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And plenty with issues....
WoA is basically a "middle man"
If I had to decide between dealing with a shop that does clutches all day, every day, and someone that interfaces with a shop in his spare time, I'll deal with the shop directly.
If I had to decide between dealing with a shop that does clutches all day, every day, and someone that interfaces with a shop in his spare time, I'll deal with the shop directly.
06-15-2004, 04:28 AM
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Cite some statistics. I've heard people having problems with flywheel fitment, but only
one story of a bad clutch, which may be a faulty product, abuse, poor installation, etc. Myself and many Stage 3ers have SPEC clutches and flywheels and are very happy, at least on nDBW. They have held up to drag launches, autocross, and many track days on many rides. The only other clutch I'd consider right now is Southbend, about which I've heard of as many problems as SPEC, roughly 1 each. If you had a personal problem or bad experience, state it, don't make blanket statements. If you have collected some cases of failures, cite them specifically so that people can go and investigate by tracking threads.