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I e-mailed Tim at TJM Motorsports as they are now working with Dahlback. He said that they have 330 HP, 420 HP, and 500 HP+ kits for the DBW A4. The stage 3+ APR kit that will most likely be unvailed at the BBQ should be pushing around 320 HP, but has anyone had experience with Dahlback and TJM? I know that Dahlback is popular is Europe, but haven't heard of too many people in the states with their kits. I will most likely go with either the APR stage 3+ or the Dahlback 330 HP kit. I'm leaning towards APR because of their reliability, but what do you guys think?

AaronBryan

have you checked out pricing?

JAFO

doing business under two names has never inpressed me.<ul><li><a href="http://www.northerneuropeanautomotive.com/">http://www.northerneuropeanautomotive.com/</a</li></ul>

ralley

I am looking into buying some stuff from Dahlback

A400

You will have no integrity issues w/TJM. I am spending a lot and going to unheard of levels with the car. Tim is the best, inquire about some of the stuff they have already installed and dynoed. #'s published are running lower than tests. I could have gone either way to 330hp (APR/vs Dahlback) and did a lot of search. Dahlback seems superior in every way. A bit higher, but when car is done it appears to be done without codes or issues via DB. Just my opinion w/20K+$ backing it.
Rod

A400

Have you called and priced things yet?

Ray Khan

The TJM website is just reiteratting the confusing price structure of the other Dahlback websites. The top speeds of 160+ mph don't make much sense to me either. I thought we geared out around 150 give or take? I think Dahlback would do better business if they had a better marketing plan here in the US. Their pricing supposedly includes installation. It would be nice to see what the hardware costs, so it can be compared to other hardware out there. According to their site a K04 turbo costs $1500. That's close to double what most other tuners sell them for. So it's my inclination to assume most of their hardware will pricey. It would be nice to see pics and specs of the hardware for comparison as well. I don't think many people doubt the stuff is good, but it's price scares people and since no one here has it and can comment on it, post dynos, post quarter miles times, kill stories, illegal racing videos or pictures, why would anyone just jump to pay so much for a product like that? If Dahlback wants to earn more business, intro pricing would be a good way to get some customers into that brand and develop a good relationship with enthusiasts. I don't see how Dahlback is going to sell many turbo kits with that marketing plan. It's kind of like how you don't see so many people with MTM stuff chips or K04 kits. Everyone who has their stuff raves about it, but the price still scares most away. Hell, people are scared away by the currect APR and PES turbo kit pricing for that matter. But at least they do group buys, and holiday sales and intro pricing and other sales.

BLKPERL

How do you know APR's kit is 320HP???

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Seeing that the stage 3+ kit they offered previously put out 310 HP, they will probably be offering 10 or more HP because of the 1+ years they have put into the D&amp;D of the new Stage 3+.

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I will let you guys know what he says when I get a reply.