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Old 04-25-2003, 01:39 AM
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Default race pipes on a stg 3?

just did my test and I now have 2 years. will a test pipe give a fault code? what's the latest and greatest? will it fit OK with my scorpion exhaust?
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Default You will get a CE light with a testpipe yes

and basically the code states that your Cat isn't doing its job of cleaning the air .. well duh ..

There are MIL defeaters out there that send a false signal to your ECU, I'm looking into those and from what I've heard they aren't too expensive.
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Default Most of the nDBW Stage III's will NOT toss a DTC for cat underefficiency as long as both O2 sensors

are installed (and healthy). This from folks I know who run one. Some APR Stg III DBWs don't toss that code and some do.
Given the GT25 outlet flange you'll likely want to use APR's test pipe. It is a VERY nice design.
If you want to take a physical look at one (I am installing mine along with the tranny swap) scoot on up to B'ham.
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Default Re: race pipes on a stg 3?

I'll be selling mine pretty soon if you're interested. I have a ndbw and it did throw a cel.
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Default You will fail the readiness checks, but might not get a CEL.

I have had a test pipe for about 10K miles with no CELs.
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Not necessarily with APR S3.
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nDBW and no CE with race pipe and open exhaust
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Default Does that mean they removed the code or changed the threshold?

I know the 2nd 02 sensor codes can be turned off, I had that done on my old K03 street chip while I had a race pipe. I am pretty sure I had that turned off with the T28 chip also.
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Default No it isn't 'turned off'. From what I've been able to gather it is the rate of temperature rise (and

a temperature threshold too I believe) and the nDBWs seem to satisfy the ECU where many DBWs don't. I don't know if the thresholds are altered in the DBW's emissions 'controls' or if the nDBWs just heat up a bit quicker. Many of the DBWs only toss the code ocassionaly.
I wonder if the Iconel manifold might alter the equation a bit ... keeping the exhaust gases hotter especially on start up.
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Default hmm, my cel came up about 200 miles after installing mine, im still stage 2 now...

just a few more weeks and that'll all change


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