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Old 08-12-2002, 07:31 PM
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Default TT 180 engine vs. 225

Could someone clear up what makes the compression different between these two? I'm assuming that the head of the 225 has more volume since the bore & stroke are the same. This seems misleading to me since they're both called the same 1.8L.
Am I clueless here?

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Default bigger turbo, more boost in the 225HP engine.

I think the innards are the same, no? I don't know for sure...

ask on the TT forum? :-)
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Default probably the piston design

IIRC the 225 TT has forged internals
Old 08-12-2002, 11:25 PM
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Default the connection rod - well thats kind of guessing.

they are all forged. 225 and 180 as far as i know.
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Default The easiest (and cheapest) way to drop compression....

is to add a thicker head gasket. I'm not sure what the two compression ratios are, but you can drop quite a bit, depending on the chamber volume and piston dish.
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Default Nope, that won't change the compression ratio....

and the stock 1.8T rods from my 97 1.8T were forged, most connecting rods are.

The following 4 things will affect the compression ratio:
1. displacement (volume)
2. piston dish/dome volume
3. combustion chamber volume
4. head gasket volume

any change in those four areas, will change the compression ratio.
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Default According to Corky Bell that is not a good way to do it...

I can't remember exactly why, but I do recall in Maximum Boost he did not recommend that.
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Default You know I suggested this on the TT board...

I was told by some of the Automotive enigneers that this wasn't such a good idea on the 1.8T. I'll try to find the thread.
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well? go get the book! =P
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Default Tried and true...

There is no engineering reason not to do it. It is done all the time by factories and racing teams. The advantage is that you don't irretrievably mill off head material and it gives you a safety margin if you overdo the boost.


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