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What's the difference between an open deck vs a closed deck block? Or a semi-closed deck?

Old 02-17-2001, 10:20 AM
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What's the difference between an open deck vs a closed deck block? Or a semi-closed deck?
Old 02-17-2001, 10:58 AM
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Closed deck blocks have open spaces between the cylinders and the edge of the block that comprises the mating surface between the block and the cylinder head. It requires sand casting and is more difficult and expensive. Sand casting is also less precise than die casting. The plus side of closed deck blocks is that they're stronger than open deck designs. I think all of the current Honda blocks are open deck and they seem to hold up fine after forced induction so I don't think it's really an issue until big hp is involved.

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<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/776/closed_deck.jpg">

Open Deck:

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/776/open_deck.jpg">
Old 02-17-2001, 03:44 PM
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A-ha..thanks...comparing Subaru WRX vs STi blocks over on the i-club.
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I thought all the honda's put in a sleeve when they build up their motors to make it a closed deck.
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Default wouldn't that mess up the cooling?

Just asking. I have no idea.
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Not sure. But I know they put in a liner so they can bore out the motors. They make 1.8's into 2.2;s
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Default Right, because their alloy block cannot take the all the force, so that have about 1/4" thick metal

liner. And these stock ones will crack with any forced induction above 6-8 psi, so they are replaced with slightly thicker and reinforced ones, and welded around the top to make them a closed block kinda design. Cost - About $300 for this one shop in L.A. (if you send them a block only) At least that what is needed to extract above 300hp from these 1.8L engines.
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I thought that's what you were getting at....
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