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Old 10-21-2004, 07:05 AM
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Default Why am I running rich? (stage three 1.8T) Eratic air/fuel ratio.

<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/7507/mtm_stage_3.jpg"></center><p>I recently dyno'd my car and was disappointed with the air/fuel ratio being so inconsistent. I'm hoping some of you might be able to help diagnose the problem in order to create a more consistent air/fuel ratio.
I have MTM stage three. This includes software, 5 bar FPR, Bosch F5DP0R plugs, ported/polished OEM manifold, 3" downpipe, race cat, Milltek exhaust and K04. Keep in mind I did not get everything from MTM, so it's not TRUELY a full MTM system, however everything they spec is what I have on there. I've retained the OEM injectors thus far.
One potential problem is the FMIC. MTM has built their stage three to be used with the OEM side-mount intercooler, and I have a FMIC. This might be a problem, but I don't know.
Also, this chart was run with the older spark plugs in it, not the new ones I referenced above. That might make a difference in the air/fuel ratio, but I certainly cannot feel a difference after putting the new plugs in.
I logged a few minutes of track time with a VAG-COM a couple days ago. That info is in an Excel spreadsheet. If anyone would be willing to look at it I'd be happy to e-mail it to you.
Additionally, I hope to do some more data logging in the next day or two with a wideband sensor and get a much higher sampling rate.
I'm not really sure what my next step is. I really want to make this work with the current software since I don't want to have to buy another chip. But, if I have to move to another tuner's software to get this to work, that's what I'll do.
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
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you can email that log to me if you want.
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Default I don't know that much but...

can you tweak your settings with Lemminwinks?<ul><li><a href="http://www.saradon.com/lemminwinks.exe">click</a></li></ul>
Old 10-21-2004, 07:58 AM
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Thanks Mike! email sent
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Default I know nothing about that stuff, but it looks like a damn fine tool.

What do you need in order to tune with Limmiwinks?
Chip? Money? Laptop?
Old 10-21-2004, 08:35 AM
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Default I wouldnt go changing things based on a tailpipe sniffer...

Find a place where you can rent a wideband 02 sensor and plug it into your cat and do some logs
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Cool, thanks for the tip. I'm doing that tomorrow morning and will post findings right after.
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You r laptop and a VAG cable.. the same as you use for VAG-COM
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Default So how much is access to the program?

Or can I just hook up a laptop to my car and click the link you provided and just go at it?
Not that I would myself...
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Default Download it its free..

The program is from REVO, it can be found on many websites. I only leanred about it last week.
Be carefull as the warning says. You can F up your car.

Its important to write down your standard settings b4 you start.


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