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Old 10-31-2003, 05:03 PM
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Default XR4tic and others, how useful is a wideband O2?

I have the opportunity to buy the AEM wideband O2 (link attached) for my turbo Miata. My stand alone management will interface with the wideband, so i don't need to worry about lack of a display.

My question is...how useful is this to have, how much cleaner and safer will i be able to tune my car? Is it worth it?

With the stand alone i am getting i can tune the car entirely on the road, and i thought this might be a great way to get quite close to a dyno situation?

I can get it for $250 because of a couple discounts that i have with Flying Miata...

Thanks.

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Old 10-31-2003, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: XR4tic and others, how useful is a wideband O2?

It's one of the best tools for tuning. If you go standalone, a wideband will be your best friend while dialing it in.
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A wdieband reads a/f readings faster and much more accuratly. It will give you simuliar results compared to EGT, but it will be mor eral time. As said alreadly, its a MUST for fine tuning.
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turbo miata...mmmm ZOOM ZOOM ZOOOOOOOOOM
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Default It's an absolute must if you're tuning it yourself....

Do not trust a normal O2 for tuning.

$250 is cheap insurance for a turbo motor
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Useful, yes! Ditto on what everyone else here said....
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Default Thanks, but is it of any use beyond the inital setup?

I will get default maps that will work well, and then i can autotune with the narrrow band...but doing it with a wideband would be alot better, i could gain another 20hp judging by others who have used a dyno for their fine-tuning.

Second, i don't think the wideband will last long in such a rich environment...any guesses on durability? $90 a sensor to replace.

Once tuning is done though, is there any benefit day-to-day in using a wideband?

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How about.. How inaccurate is a narrowband?
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Default Sure....

it looks like a Bosch sensor, which is used by Audi/VW, and is supposedly good for 100K miles. Maybe not that much in a richer environment, but still should be good for a while.

I've heard the Bosch sensors can be had for $25-$30, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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just SLOW as ****. The readings are ok, but not what I would call "real time"


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